DNA Phantom effect

I am relatively new to ATS, so forgive me if this has been beaten to death by threads already. I looked around on the boards, and could not find but mere mentions of this.

Dr. Vladimir Poponin's discovery along with Dr. Peter Gariaev, if true, is revolutionary. It is called the DNA Phantom Effect. It involves physical DNA that somehow attracts and manipulates light in a vacuum chamber, when the light should be random. Upon removing the DNA from the experiment, apparently the light stayed organized. I am no physicist, but I understand the jist of the idea. The implications of this discovery, to me, are almost too good to be true.

As of the time of this post, I have not found much to discredit this theory.

There are many sites that include this discovery, many being of alternative healing and science=spirituality nature. Many are of the type of 'too good to be true.'

Let's do what ATS seems to be so good at, and debunk it if indeed false, or be amazed if it's true.

en.wikipedia.org...
Gariaev mentioned

www.fractal.org...

homepages.ihug.co.nz...

www.thequantumsite.com...

For now, I'm going to have to believe in it, as all I can find is how smart the two men are. The deeper I dig, the more legitimate it seems to me, but have at it.

I have heard of this before and I find it quite fascinating. I have not heard of any debunking of it, but I suspect that the problem is not so much whether it has been debunked or not, but if the results have ever been properly verified.

Obviously this would have to be reproduced in other laboratories under controlled conditions, ans so far I have not heard of any attempts to do this.

The obvious first question would be if other objects affect photons in the same way, for example a grain of salt, or a fossil.

Well there are mediums that 'bend' or change the speed of light. Water, lenses, prisms, glass, atmosphere. But these are all similar effects from similar mediums. We are talking DNA- something that is in every nook and cranny of our being.

I have a great visual in my head of this experiment of light spiraling in a double helix form.

If indeed correct, the DNA Phantom effect would lend credibility to so many theories that have always been referred to as just 'science fiction.'

We can literally transmit 'ourselves' or our 'information' through light. I wonder how fiber optics and this relate...

If DNA can harness light, and we are made up of DNA in the most basic parts of our being, then are we harnessing light right now?



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To be honest, I would be surprised if you found anything at ALL to support this theory?!

That sounds 'skeptical' but its not, I have come across this information via various sources (Drunvalo Melchizedek being one of them), tried to look for various sources on this subject myself.

I would really appreciate it if you could post any 'credible' sources you may have. All i ever found were 2nd,3rd,4th-100th hand information, anecdotal at best.

Welcome to ATS by the way, its god-damn beautiful here! I hope you enjoy your stay as much as I have

Cheers
AoN

This is an interesting read...
www.frontiernet.net...

He is saying that if we cannot repeat the experiment to prove the DNA Phantom effect, we can at least infer it from the surrounding evidence.

link didn't work

Wilcock is always on top of those smart Russians:
www.divinecosmos.com...


biophysics.50megs.com...

www.genoterra.ru...

There is plenty enough to support it, that is why I started this thread AoN. Most of the first sites that come up, you are right, are second hand.

However I believe Wilcock is fairly credible, and he has taken to the theory.

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Do we not harness light rays from the sun as heat energy?

This is just more complex because we don't understand it yet.

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I am interested in more information as well. I first learned of the DNA phantom effect in Gregg Braden's book, Speaking the lost language of God. He goes into other known experiments that suggest our profoundly direct relationship with the world. My guess is it is still too young for anyone to stamp their name to it. So many variables that could challenge this theory.. but it hasn't been debunked either. Exciting times we are in indeed! I will keep searching with you guys

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I subscribe to an idea that Electromagnetic radiation drives and composes the universe. I also believe that the em energy used in "thought" can actually go beyond the boundaries of the brain and embed into surrounding objects (including dna). This is the first I've heard about a dna phantom effect and I thank you for bringing it to my attention.