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Originally posted by DrumsRfun
As brave as that girl might be I really think that was very stupid of her.If there were no cameras then she would be dead.
If I was a soldier doing my job and she was in the way then I would just shoot her and carry on doing what I was paid and ordered to do.
Thats reality.War has no conscience.
Originally posted by DrumsRfun
I will admit that took some guts tho.
Originally posted by DangerDeath
I apologize, it was my mistake. I meant Man-God as opposed to God-Man, which is at the core of the Christ idea.
The historical examples of Man-God are:
Alexander the Great
and the likes of them.
Originally posted by palg1
Wow! Shoot her? Kind of drastic for this situation isn't it.
As a former soldier, it would be alot easier to just restrain her then carry on with the task at hand. That's what flex-cuffs were made for.
She was of no threat to the soldiers in this video.
After it's all over I'd let her know that my job supperceeded her convictions at that moment but that I respect her for having the guts to voice them.
It looks as if Hamas was designed to weaken the Moslem world and aid the fascist agenda....
2. The CIA, and its friends in MI6 and Mossad, developed the idea of using ‘Moslem’ militants to advance their ‘fascist’ agenda.
Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is used by the CIA and MI6 to do their dirty work.
(The use of the Muslim Brotherhood by MI6 and the CIA in Egypt, Syria and Iran)
Hamas has made the Palestinians look like ‘mad Moslems’.
Hamas has divided the Palestinians.
Hamas has given the Israelis an excuse to kill off hundreds more Palestinians.
“Some analysts believe …HAMAS, an offshoot of the Egyptian Islamic Brotherhood was created in 1987… to counter-balance the nationalistic… Fatah.
“The Fatah leadership believes the establishment of Hamas was not without the help of the Egyptian Mokhabarat and the Israeli Mossad.” (Killing Palestinian Civilians; Who is to Blame?)
Originally posted by Zepherian
This is what happens when the female spirit is more active in human affairs.
She is a brave woman and I can't praise her enough.
As for the soldiers, like all soldiers, they are brainwashed and disconnected from their humanity. Forgive them, for they know not what they do, as someone once said...
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by Wertdagf
Ignorance is not a crime. Unlike your goodself, the Palestinain people can't just jump a plane on a few weeks/months wages and see every portion of the world.
Unlike you, the Palestinians do not have information at the click of a button.
They know little, because they are a trapped people. Borders have closed, few counties will allow them in. Shame on you.
The Palestinian people have chosen to elect leaders who claim they will bring an end to the Israeli 'oppression'. These leaders have a vested interest in cultivating the culture of death - it furthers their cause which is the annihilation of the Nation of Israel. This conflict only appears to be about land. It is perpetuated by one thing and that is hatred for the other side!
... I was in charge of a platoon that consists of machine gunners and missile men. Our job was to go into certain areas of the towns and secure the roadways. There was this one particular incident - and there's many more - the one that really pushed me over the edge. It involved a car with Iraqi civilians. From all the intelligence reports we were getting, the cars were loaded down with suicide bombs or material. That's the rhetoric we received from intelligence. They came upon our checkpoint. We fired some warning shots. They didn't slow down. So we lit them up.
Q: Lit up? You mean you fired machine guns?
A: Right. Every car that we lit up we were expecting ammunition to go off. But we never heard any. Well, this particular vehicle we didn't destroy completely, and one gentleman looked up at me and said: "Why did you kill my brother? We didn't do anything wrong." That hit me like a ton of bricks...
Q: The reports said the cars were loaded with explosives. In all the incidents did you find that to be the case?
A: Never. Not once. There were no secondary explosions. As a matter of fact, we lit up a rally after we heard a stray gunshot.
Q: A demonstration? Where?
A: On the outskirts of Baghdad. Near a military compound. There were demonstrators at the end of the street. They were young and they had no weapons. And when we rolled onto the scene, there was already a tank that was parked on the side of the road. If the Iraqis wanted to do something, they could have blown up the tank. But they didn't. They were only holding a demonstration. Down at the end of the road, we saw some RPGs (rocket-propelled grenades) lined up against the wall. That put us at ease because we thought: "Wow, if they were going to blow us up, they would have done it."
Q: Were the protest signs in English or Arabic?
Q: Who gave the order to wipe the demonstrators out?
A: Higher command. We were told to be on the lookout for the civilians because a lot of the Fedayeen and the Republican Guards had tossed away uniforms and put on civilian clothes and were mounting terrorist attacks on American soldiers. The intelligence reports that were given to us were basically known by every member of the chain of command. The rank structure that was implemented in Iraq by the chain of command was evident to every Marine in Iraq. The order to shoot the demonstrators, I believe, came from senior government officials, including intelligence communities within the military and the U.S. government.
Q: What kind of firepower was employed?
A: M-16s, 50-cal. machine guns.
Q: You fired into six or ten kids? Were they all taken out?
A: Oh, yeah. Well, I had a "mercy" on one guy. When we rolled up, he was hiding behind a concrete pillar. I saw him and raised my weapon up, and he put up his hands. He ran off. I told everybody, "Don't shoot." Half of his foot was trailing behind him. So he was running with half of his foot cut off.