Originally posted by Dracula23The fact that 75% of the death toll are hamas combatants, I think is an amazing victory for the preciseness of the Israeli airforce.

any chance of a source for this figure?

yes, CNN fox news and MSNBC. all you have to do is go to their sites...

which of them has reporters on the ground? i would like to get first hand reports.

yeah, no worries, i'll take any source at this stage!!! seriously, can i have a link to a story reporting that figure? your al jazerra link is just the front page!!

[edit on 6/1/09 by pieman]

I think you will also find numerous threads stating, many with sources, that Hamas did accept the ceasefire. It was infact Israel who broke the cease fire and Hamas fired rockets in retaliation.

Even in those reports Israel was attacking rocket smuggling tunnels or Hamas militants. Much different then Hamas reacting by sending 80 rockets a day at isreali civilians. Wouldn’t you agree?

No, since an attack is an attack. Whether it is on the government, or on a civillain, it is still an attack.

Most weapons that reach Palestine will be smuggled because Israel wont happily let weapons through.

Hamas rockets are unguided, if they hit civillians it is by chance. Israels rockets are intetionally guided.


Neither side is free from blame I musdt say...but...

i think you'll actually find that a cease fire is intended to be a cessation of all fire!! so any chance of those links i requested?

Dude im not going to waist 5 minutes on my life to find the exact link for you. If it interests you search the site yourself. Its their in Big letters…

and to your answer "if attack is an attack" then people in Gaza should stop whining about the disproportion of the israeli attacks.

Why should they? They tried to reach a cease fire...Israel would not allow it.

By that logic, a 12 year old should not complain if he was attacked by ten 30 year olds without provocation. Simply because when the first one hit him, he hit back.

Don't say it isn't the same, I am simply putting things into a very simple logic, easy to understand for all.

ahhhhhh, you can't find one, thought not. here's some big letters for you,

cop out

Woah woah woah... unguided you don't shoot them at anyone.

You fire them in the general direction they should go, and they randomly land.

As opposed to israels rockets and bombs which are far more guided, and aimed at civillian areas.

Hamas didn't break the ceasefire, Israel did...but ok. I assume thats what you mean, because nobody should be condemed for STARTing the ceasefire.


The good guy is entirely based on opinion, Britain was the 'good' guy in world war two. Yet in return for the Blits in England we bombed huge parts of Germany, including childrens fairs, a church choir of children was even gunned down. Yet we were 'good'. Entirely down to opinion...

25% of 200 is 50!!
15 out of 200 is 7.5%!!

eh, school?