Im sick of the "Im Sick Of" mini-wars about Israel/Palestine, page 1

Originally posted by ShAuNmAn-X
I for one am not sick of the posts, because the updates on the situation are informative. I just people wouldn't fling all of the pointed comments and insults. I understand that the conflict is multifaceted but as SO put it, wars are not won or lost here. The I'm sick of threads and the Gaza/Israel threads probably have the staff's hands pretty full. I personally won't post in those threads as of right now because there is too much vitriol from both sides and it can be infectious. I'm with you RF, I think I'll stay in the "neutral zone".

Welcome to the "Neutral Zone".

I fully agree with you and SO, wars are not won or lost in any forum. And I find much of the threads informative. I find it however, to be like seperating the wheat from the chaff, like walking on a minefield with no map to get at the information. I dont find such threads filled with name calling and labeling to be very informative at all.

Originally posted by lee anoma
There are no wars here.

I think the bickering is not as bad as some people have made it out to be. People are overwhelmingly commenting on what is current and when this dies down they will jump to the next thing new disaster.

It will be okay.

Id like to think it will be ok too. And I would like to believe that it is...yet another name for it....overwhelmingly commenting...on what is current. It appears to me as more like overwhelmingly taking it too personally on either side to the point of slapping post it note labels on people to the extreme while commenting.

Surely people are not like a box of marbles rolling where the box is tilted...are they? The box is tilted today on Gaza, all the marbles roll that way, then when this dies down, the box gets tilted another way and all the marbles roll the other way?

If that is in fact the case...the analogy of it...then is there any question to how easily the marbles are rolled to the direction and tune of news propeganda, no matter which side puts it out?

Id like to believe that people are not that easily gullable and swayed like the tilting of a box of marbles.

Its a sensitive subject no doubt, and will hit many on a personal level because of their lineage, while to others its simply something to choose for, like going which way the wind blows...falling in line. Im sure that SO's u2u he sent out yesterday reached every single member here at ATS. I sat back and just read the posts after that..still seeing the same pattern going on.

My term "mini-wars" is just a name, didnt know what else to call it. Debate?...alot more than debating happeing...discussion?...Im not so sure when there is so much anti-semi, pro-zoni, pro Pali, anti Israeli....so much labeling and lines in the sand being drawn. It is just difficult for me to remain neutral when surrounded by feuding sides over a conflict in that area where clearly both sides of the conflict are at huge fault, stemming from decades ago, and even centuries ago. Trying to interact in those threads from a neutral prospective, is like taking stray fire from the shots being flung by those who have put themselves on either side of that line in the sand.

And its not limited to one thread that supports one side or the other thread that supports the other side, it is apparent in all of them..except here of course. And I hope it stays that way. To me, if the masses dont pick up on it..doesnt matter. If it doesnt bleed, it doesnt lead. Are we seeing the exact same thing here at the forums to the likes of how news media throws up the bloodbath to lead a newscast for the attention attraction rating? Is that true information exchange?

I call it as I am seeing it. There is nothing fogging my neutral view of whats taking place, both in Gaza and here. Like I was saying earlier, just 3 weeks ago much of those members were laughing and joking and patting each other on the back, now they are at each other's throats..in a forum setting of course. It is fortunate that it IS only a forum, text on a screen, and not a real battlefield with real weapons.

Honestly..if it was a real battlefield with real weapons...would there be simple exchanges of vocal opinions crossing that line in the sand?

All of this is analogus, a comparison, a level of psycological example.

I certianly do hope this settles down, both in Gaza and here.

I heard on the radio yesterday that there is a push for a cease fire for today in Gaza. I hope that does come through. War never solved anything, all war has ever done was kill alot of people, create more lines in the sand to be crossed generations later, and kill even more people.

These two sides, the Israeli and Palestinians, need to stop their aggression against each other, put an end to this centuries old hate and conflict against each other, and start living in peace. There is plenty of territory there for both. There is no reason why either side should be fighting each other over a land mass that is no bigger than some states along the east coast. Perhaps both Israel and Palestine need an example of how a people of diverse culture can live together in even tighter areas and not have to resort to 30 foot high barbed wire fence, flinging bottle rockets, suicide bombings and continuous conflict over land that doesnt have any real mineral or natural resource value to any significat degree to be fighting for...to be sacrificing so many innocent for.

"War...what is it good for....absolutely nothing"!! quote from a song.

Cheers!!!!

[edit on 6-1-2009 by RFBurns]