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Australia 'destroying life on Earth'


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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 01:52 AM by Blue Flowers


I have seen a link in you tube to a new electricity creating device made..get this now! Made of MAGNETS..and in australia. yep oh and spinning bearings etc..

So what a better way to creat power?! Or keep it a simple rig. Get stainless steel plates. Make an HHO unit, figure out magnetic repulsion/attraction techniques yourself. And everyone just take like one or two years and convert your houses to this genius earth and liberty freindly idea.

The magnets create electricity for the HHO, the HHO crerates electricty, and gas if needed.

Dont mess with HHO though or electricity if you dont know what your doing, it can be a hazard.

But if you make more than a car batteries worth, it becomes more dangerous. So in my theory, i have my unit undercground. And equipped with meters etc.. away from structures as well and marked like a gas line would be.

Perhaps if we spread out, created a free society of science and drive (motivation) and got over our religion, our politicis. It would take us into new realms of perception, and fulfill the words of many drunks and rock stars of our history.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 02:09 AM by Anonymous ATS


So with this muppet in charge of GISS, does anyone actually believe their models or temperature series any longer?

Given the level of advocacy that Hansen engages in, IMO it would be foolish to assume that GISS really produces unbiased scientific results. It is no wonder that the longer time goes on, the cooler past temperatures get using the GISS algorithms, funnily enough ensuring an increasing warming trend over time...

Hansen should stick to armwaving about his models and stay out of the political arena. After all, NASA scientists should be scientists and not advocates.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 02:47 AM by ExamineAllViews


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I wonder what the reaction would have been if it had been a Russian scientist who made this claim? Have a think about it...

This thread wouldn't be a troll's attempt to fuel some good old "Anti-Americanism" sentiment would it?



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 04:32 AM by tezzajw


Originally posted by ExamineAllViews
This thread wouldn't be a troll's attempt to fuel some good old "Anti-Americanism" sentiment would it?

Please don't try and overthink my motivation. Getting it wrong would make your attempt look foolish.

I saw a news title that was, quite frankly, hilarious. I've never seen Australia accused of destroying the world before.

I don't care who made the accusation. In this case it's a NASA scientist, go figure. One hot-air agency accusing us Aussies of making too much hot air.



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:13 PM by Anonymous ATS





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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 11:42 PM by Anonymous ATS


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And exactly why won't you include China in this post? They now emit more than the US.

AND, according to FuturePundit:
"A constant percentage increase per year turns into an absolute increase per year. If China maintains an 11% CO2 increase per year through the 2010s then by 2020 it will likely emit more CO2 than all the rest of the world put together."



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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 11:50 PM by WinstonSmith911


good things c02 is what plants breath and the more we have, the more plant life we have.. which means we have a smaller food crisis.. 98% of greenhouse gasses are water vapour aka clouds

our temperature has more to do with solar radiation than man mad gasses.. we contribute one percent at most..

look at the other planets in our solar system

look at the polar ice caps which grew 33% this year.. look at the coldest winter in 25 years worldwide this year



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 12:45 AM by ButterBricks


Take your criticism back to your own god-damn country.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 12:51 AM by mopusvindictus


Australia is destroying all life on Earth

G-d darn Army of cloned Kangaroos has had us on the run for years now where i'm stationed, they have terrible aim with an assault rifle but you should hear the screams of my men... as they get boxed in the balls by a Roo... it's sickening...

I've seen the vids that have leaked out from the Australian camps... Not Pretty

Big Roos smoking entire pieces of Coal, apparently the coal gets them high, i've seen them take bullets and barely notice... they feed on our troops, no captives, just lunch... heard rumors of medical experiments and worse...

Australia is indeed a menace



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 12:54 AM by ExamineAllViews


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Haha take it easy tezza, I'm only playing up to your sig mate . I suppose it actually is quite a funny allegation when you think about all the other doom and gloom stuff going on in the world.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:14 AM by gordonwest


Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Australia is destroying all life on Earth

G-d darn Army of cloned Kangaroos has had us on the run for years now where i'm stationed, they have terrible aim with an assault rifle but you should hear the screams of my men... as they get boxed in the balls by a Roo... it's sickening...

I've seen the vids that have leaked out from the Australian camps... Not Pretty

Big Roos smoking entire pieces of Coal, apparently the coal gets them high, i've seen them take bullets and barely notice... they feed on our troops, no captives, just lunch... heard rumors of medical experiments and worse...

Australia is indeed a menace




I would be more affraid if or when the koalas will teamup with the Big Roos. I don't want to make anybody paraiond, but I am wondering if the koalas and the Big Roos had any ideas to what happened with Harold Holt.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:23 AM by Flighty


Australia, of all places, does not deserve this.

We have had the brightest inventors who have designed some of the most innovative energy resourceful systems in the world.

I believe the solar/wind power scheme in California was designed and implemented by an Aussie or Aussie company.
This is only one example.

Dont kick aussies in the behind for this. Kick our government for not investing in new technologies that brilliant forward thinking Australians are coming up with, only to have to take their designs/ideas overseas for it to see the light of day.

I hope Rudd reads this and dies of embarrassment.

He was supposed to be our new Green clean/lets sign the Kyoto Agreement Prime Minister.

Since he got in, absolutely diddly sqaut.

A large wind turbine company has had to close shop because they couldn't get the government to offer decent rebates.

www.abc.net.au...

This is only one example off the top of my head.
There have been lots of other companies that have had to bow out of Clean Energy production, because it's either not financially viable because of our small population, or because the government won't offer incentives by investing in the technology via rebates.

After having said all that, saying AUSTRALIA Is destroying life on Earth, when the rest of the world combined pumps out more crap than we do, is all really stupid and totally alarmist.
Bit like those kooky climate warming/Al Gore loving psuedo-scientists.
Wonder if this Nasa Scientist is one of them.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:03 AM by C0bzz


Let's get real. Population has little to do with this. The reason Australia emits so much 'per person' is because of our industry. Aluminium smelting that often has a dedicated powerplant. You don't like it? Dont buy Aluminium. I'm sure that will bode well with NASA.

Originally posted by nerbot
Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Australia releases 326,757 tonnes per year of CO2.
The U.S. releases 6,049,435 tonnes per year.




BUT....

U.S. population: 300,000,000

Australia population: 21,000,000

Australia has about 15% the population of the U.S. but releases about 3.5% more emissions.

Fact is....BOTH countries emit TOO much don't they?

Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black (from soot!)

Uhhh.... maybe my math is wrong. But America emits 1751% more emissions than Australia, not the other way around . 5.4% THE Emissions of America.

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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:34 AM by BorgHoffen


I hate to tell you this.
But some third world country's burn old tires to get power.
Burning coal in a modern country with the emission filtering policies is alot less harmfull than some situations where there is even more people doing it more.
Although its still harmful.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 03:22 AM by Anonymous ATS


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TextScientist or idiot ? Australia is the engine house supplying a large slab of the worlds mineral resources and as a factory for the global village is just another part of the jigsaw problem. It really is infuriating as a "thinking" Australian to see Americans debate serious issues with such low level contributions....

Angry and sad !



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 08:07 AM by brianhks


I bet money this guy is just trying to get picked from some committee or position in the Oboma League.

It is just a kiss up letter and Australia is an easy target without much political backlash.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 08:48 AM by Anonymous ATS


nasa = nazis are still alive

www.nesara.us...



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 11:53 AM by jped62


Those poor climate-crisis alarmists. When will they get a life and stop trying to scare people over problems that do not exist. Over the centuries Earth has endured many real events like volcano eruptions, huge quakes and floods. Yet the planet is still here and thriving. Earth will survive us and does not need to be saved.

First it was over-population, then it was the coming ice age, now it's global warming. If people are the problem, stop passing gas or commit mass suicide...do it for the planet!

Enough crisis-mongering!



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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 04:51 AM by HiAliens


This is one of those false premise arguments. Here we are debating emissions, but the tech which could make the whole world green is being deliberately supressed.

PROTIP: If someone talks about the environment, but doesn't mention hemp in the same speech, the are lying. So the NASA dude who wrote the article is, at best, uninformed.

Hemp could solve at least 70 per cent of the worlds enviro-problems, including deforestation, polluting plastics and a load of other things.

But they get us arguing about these false figures.



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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 07:06 AM by resistor


NASA

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Come on people, this is NASA! Disinfo is their business.

There does seem to be a lot of news coming out of OZ being put out for public consumption here in the USA though. Wonder what’s up with that? Time will tell.



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