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Once again, there is unrest in the Middle East. Once again, we read shocking headlines. The Zionist-Palestinian conflict is one long chain of tragedies and bloodshed. Residential neighborhoods have been transformed into war zones, and there seems to be no hope for a lasting peace.
Our members and readers have long known our position; nevertheless, in the present circumstances we will once again restate it clearly. The Zionist ideology is antithetical to the Torah. Zionism was devised to replace the Torah and its commandments with empty nationalism and power. Jews believe that the redemption of the Jews will come only through G-d, and then there will be peace for the entire world. Zionists believe only in the power of their hands: a physical, artificial redemption.
It is therefore self-understood that the State of Israel has zero connection with Jews or Judaism. We, Orthodox Jews, did not make the state. We show our disasssociation from it by not participating in its elections or accepting its financial benefits. Therefore, we bear no responsibility for the states actions.
Just as Jews would not be held responsible in a conflict between North Korea and South Korea, Jews should not be held responsible for the Zionists decisions and conflicts. The State of Israel has as much to do with Jews and Judaism as does China or Mongolia.
Orthodox Jews tell the world: WE ARE NOT ZIONISTS. The Zionists are not our representatives or spokesmen. They have no right to speak in the name of Jewry. It is a terrible mistake to confuse Jews with Zionists. We wish to live in peace with all the nations. We pray for our Jewish brethren and non-Jews in the Middle East, that they should be saved from all misfortunes and danger. And most of all, we await that great day when G-ds glory will be revealed in the entire world, and there will be peace for all of humanity.
...al-Husseini consolidated his control over the Palestinian Arabs with a campaign of murder against Jews and non-compliant Arabs, the recruitment of armed militias, and the raising of funds from around the Muslim world using anti-Jewish propaganda. In 1937 the Grand Mufti expressed his solidarity with Germany, asking the Nazi Third Reich to oppose establishment of a Jewish state, stop Jewish immigration to Palestine, and provide arms to the Arab population. Following an assassination attempt on the British Inspector-General of the Palestine Police Force and the murder by Arab extremists of Jews and moderate Arabs, the Arab Higher Committee was declared illegal by the British. The Grand Mufti lost his office of President of the Supreme muslim Council...
According to documentation from the Nuremberg and Eichmann trials, the Nazi Germany SS helped finance al-Husseini's efforts in the 1936-39 revolt in Palestine. Adolf Eichmann actually visited Palestine and met with al-Husseini at that time and subsequently maintained regular contact with him later in Berlin...
At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:
* The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.
With the collapse of Nazi Germany in 1945, the Mufti moved to Egypt where he was received as a national hero. After the war al-Husseini was indicted by Yugoslavia for war crimes, but escaped prosecution. The Mufti was never tried because the Allies were afraid of the storm in the Arab world if the hero of Arab nationalism was treated as a war criminal.
From Egypt al-Husseini was among the sponsors of the 1948 war against the new State of Israel.
Originally posted by WISHADOW
reply to post by antonia
"And the LORD spoke unto Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye are passed over Jordan into the land of Canaan (Palestine); Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places. And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land.." NUMBERS 33:50-53
These questions will go unanswered.
The the Children of Israel? What about the children of Palestine or as it was Canaan? Take over the land and kill all the people it says or actually the directive is. That is what it says. Take over the land and kill them. Destroy everything. What is the purpose? Who is the directive? I am over this god illusion. Perhaps this is a slip on their part. This is a direct relation to why there are empty pyramids and ravished cities around the world. The evidence is being destroyed here and someone is making the directive but yet we are still precarious and behind times. There is obviously a presence of a command. There is the command to go and murder these people and all of what is. Now we still have Israeli's on directive and its more obvious than ever that it is by command. Again what is this overall directive from so long ago? What is the purpose? Does this land contain something we don't know about? Is there something deep under the surface we are not aware of? Maybe a person. One of those people or whatever it is you call them. Why don't we just have them form a line and show them off to the world? or whoever he is.
I wish I could of asked Hitler to bust down the doors of the Vatican. I really do. But it just seems like he had no interest at the time.
Now look we got ATS backed to a wall probably by the mystery command for being free and open. Have you seen that thread about being careful and all that? This directive is serious. They really do fear the second coming of Israel. He must be flippin off the handle all the time with his space fleet.
Genesis 15:14 But I will execute judgment on the nation [Egypt] that they [Israelites] will serve. Afterward they will come out with many possessions. But as for you, you will go to [die] your ancestors in peace and be buried at a good old age. In the fourth generation [appx 400 years] your descendas will return here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its limit.”
Originally posted by MrJelly
next, Isreal should defend itself..and that means ATTACK.
Originally posted by MrJelly
HOWEVER, no one can argue this simple fact...isreal is vEry excessive in all its attacks.
Originally posted by falcon
As far as the land loss yea you should take a look at the land grab that took place forming what america is today starting with the land west of the mississippi river.
Originally posted by mydarkmaterials
Although we laugh at some of the wild stuff, we take a lot of it seriously.