Originally posted by MrJelly
Great post. In fact, there are people who claim that the Armenian Genocide never occured. Or that the jews were not put to death...just worked
extrememly hard.
There are some that don't want to admit this, they are either straight out "Ignorant" or of the societal "Less schooled" for such event's even
for have taken place, see it all the time here on the ATS forums discussions. I also heard there were some educational facilities that refused to
teach the children of such thing's, it was a so to speak "Left alone Event" of the past and had no true use for the life of the children as they
got older, only animosity and resentment.
WHile I am open to debate, there are things that are so crazy that it makes no sense.
Like you had said, with the world the way it is, the impossible has tended to become reality at times. but that would be considered par for teh
course, now-a- days....
Now let me point something out. Someone said that there are lots of EVIL people at the top of government. Let me make this clear
Genocide and War are done by the masses.
I see what you mean, but it is a wrong analysis of the situation. It is the "Evil" as you had said that produce the thoughts with in these
individuals, they then look upon as a job and was essentially ordered to do, even if it was under duress, it was the implication of teh "Order
Giver" the top dog so to speak. Even if the individual was following orders, it did not mean he didn't think his personal involvement was
acceptable. these cases usually start showing in either a confession down the road, or a actual change of character and thought processes to allow the
individual to accept the deed as to move on with a normal view of teh incident for the rest of his/hers life, "Denial of guilt".
Regardless of who orders what to do..the INDIVIDUAL has to pick up the gone and kill.
And the explanation for the Hitler atrocities and his Reich? Your statement is right as a "Metaphysical" analogy, but with the outside influence,
one can eventually either talk or scare an individual into doing petty much anything, this would be to avoid peer prosecution or imminent death.
Hitler was the worlds greatest PR brainwash machine that ever lived, he knew what he was doing and he got his country to go into a frenzy that could
be categorized as "Blood-Lust" for them to attack and eradicated the Jewish people.
so the fault really lies with the masses.
after the above has taken place, which by the way is absolutely recognizable by today's views, similar to how most of the world views the Zionist
Israeli's as of today. It is recognized, with a lot of help from new wave media and the like.
For example
I am responsible for the BOMBS that are MADE because of my taxes, but I am NOT responsible for the deaths in Iraq..coz the soldier CHOSE to pull the
trigger or drop the bomb.
Though this statement does fall under the "Plausible deniability" act, it runs with the fact of the seriousness of teh mental acceptance towards
such event's. If was being shot at, I would shoot back, but I wouldn't be shooting innocent men, women or children that aren't catring a weapon to
bare upon me. Reaction of event's with heightened emotion and adrenaline, after some time in the midst of war, it all comes as a "Survival of the
Fittest" thought perception, but one in control can deal with the job at hand and not waver to the mental effects of war. I have a lot of friends
from desert storm and Iraqi freedom, some are alright, but some are suffering PST from the war. Those guy's will never forget, but they all tell me
the same thing "I was doing it for my country, and your freedom." Though I would like to argue the explanation, they have suffered enough under the
thumb of the "Government" "Elitist" "The people that own you at that particular time", so, your analogy is once again a some what one sided
belief, though it does seem as a good point of view, it is an analogy of less than personal experiences.
If we start thinking like this we can make a change. If we keep blaming the elite or government who just give the order..we wont get
anywhere.
its the basis of WHY the masses, soldiers, etc..end up doing these HORRIBLE acts. they turn and say "I was just taking orders"
the fault lies in that.
coz there is NO WAY one or two ELITE or illuminati or freemasons can KILL millions of people.
It is a "Correct thinking Problem" when it comes to these scenarios. Even though you have analyzed this correctly, it fails as a reality
drastically. We are all individuals with different mental capabilities. Some are stronger than others for this to become a reality, and the civilians
for the most part can decide to change, but the PTB's wont, and that creates a rift in our reality and our views from the government and such high
places as a "Mutiny" "Rebellion" Traitor-ism" "Unpatriotic" "Communist" etc.. by the PTB's and are dealt with in a manor to allow on looking
public eye's of the civilians to see what they don't want to do, as to avoid the same punishments.
I do understand your points of view, and I do wish thing's were different, but for now your thoughts are a "None-Reality" fact. we won't be able
to get the world to do as we have just done all at the same time, which is the only way it could ever be as you had mentioned. Too much hatred and
dislikes in the world, and most of it comes from simple fears in the first place, instilled upon us by our own character and personal thought
patterns, "Fear" will always be the deterrent to change the abilities of these soldiers and common acknowledgement of "It's my job, and I was
ordered to do it." type of realities.
So, it is not the masses, it is the people of lesser considerations to order such events. Soldiers have to feed families too, and to them, they are
doing the right thing, even if it isn't, the will be following some one else's orders for death and destruction. No human, unless mentally ill or
charged with such events would do it on their own, "Genocide" and the prospects of "WWIII" are looming, and it will always be, now that we have
the power to destroy each other with no remorse from people of government that don't even see the Theatre of such events (Their not their to do
battle themselves) but the choices, decision's and eventual victory or defeat, well, it was all staged in a room possibly thousands of miles away,
and by who? A few chosen people working for one particular individual.
I hope you understand my explanation, it is a very down to earth and correct analogy, and unfortunately, it is the reality of individual that have
to experience such thing's in their life times.
