Why does any criticism of Israel get the poster labeled an “Anti Semite”

Because Israel is a jewish state - any attempt to undermine that is a two faced lie - Pakistan was set up as a Islamic state JUST as Israel was set up as a jewish state.
Further there are strict laws governing those that are allowed to hold citizenship and they MUST follow jewish bloodline - talk about ignorance of the highest order !

Further non - jews although allowed to be residence are prohibited from almost ALL aspects of civic life - there are what can be described as tokenistic gestures towards non jewish backgrounds.

All of this is manifest in the most important claims of the palestinians which is the right as refugees to retrun to their homes, this is ONLY OPEN TO JEWISH PEOPLE, no non jewish has been granted the right of return -

always good to have a spokesperson from AIPAC around here though to keep the waters muddied - carp.

And you believe that count isn't inflated?
The tactics of Hamas is obviously going to be one of "the victim" because it has no hope of defeating Israel. It's only hope is getting others to act in it's stead.

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more people in Israel are killed every year from the thunderstruck than by the palestinian rockets. that's for sure.

obviously it is not right that there are any victims in Israel. especially that these are also a civilians. but to kill whole nation (as it is looks it will end like) does not look like a mistake to me.

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Nazis extensively ranted against "Zionism" so how is that "Zionists" are Nazis?

Deny Ignorance!


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Which of my statements will get people wound up?

Who said anything about them being two Christian countries?
These are Jews and Muslims at war, they don't believe in Christ the Savior or the New Testament which professes "turning the other cheek".

They both believe in the Old Testament, which means they both believe in "an eye for an eye".

It seems most posters talk about Isreal and its actions. Its a religious state not unlike say Iran. Most people do not say Iran they say Muslin or Muslin extremist etc. etc. etc.

The simple fact is any critisim no matter how worded draws the anti semite lable much like one would draw a gun

it gets the poster labeled "anti semite" because that label still has power to "Neutralize" a discussion in favor of the person doing the name calling.

It's like imagine African american's had there own country , that was pro black, and proud of it, and powerful-influential on the world stage, they could label anyone who accussed them of under hand deals, as being a ...insert clever word with negative conotation that may put a stain on your repuation.....and violla ...........gov't have a shield to carry out whatever they wish........with a less chance of being.......criticized because any criticizer could be labeled an anti african american racist. and after a while people would just stop trying. also under this example african american's living there or abroad who are brought up and taught in a "race class" all about there ancestors living with the memory of a painful event (slavery) they would be labeled as a traitor or uncle tom for saying "hey wait ........it really isn't fair the way we manipulated the use of a term so that we or especially our corrupt gov't can get away with it and any criticism can be deflected"........there wouldn't really be much social support for this type of truthful couragous outcry...much the opposite

I think half the people who use the term not only don't realize that israel Gov't should be labeled anti semite as well as anyone in there country who looks down at arabs as second or third class citizens- Arabs are semite's- it just shows the name is misused and pointless

But it doesn't matter what the truth is- it matters what perception is and the perception is that anti semitism only concerns people "jew hating"....not arab hating .

and the govt's and people who benefit from the mis-use of this word wether thru poor intentions or well intented ignorance will continue to use it

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Because it is the last resort of someone who has nothing valid to say and no defense for their actions.

They did try sinking the USS LIBERTY.

Jews use the term "anti-semite" to instill fear in people who speak their mind in an attempt to oppress them. Being anti-semetic in a few countries across the globe is actually a criminal offence.

Here's what some google search results read...

*5 May 2005 ... Muslim army deserter jailed in FL - anti American & anti semitic notes found in backpack
*Lawyer Jailed for Anti-Semitic Court Outburst ... A Houston lawyer who made anti -Semitic remarks about a county judge in an angry courtroom outburst has ...
*A Norwegian extremist has been jailed for posting racist and anti-Semitic propaganda via a server based in the United States.
*Greek Lawyer Gets Jail Time For "Anti-Semitic" Book
*Russian Student Sentenced for Anti-Semitic SMS.


In a democratic country, that is what we call freedom of speech. Awsome isn't it! There's actually people out there who police it.

I wonder what they're hiding....? The "Truth", maybe?

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I find it hard to label a person a Anti- Semite when he or she questions the motives or actions of Israel no government should be above the laws created by the world courts to protect basic human rights.
Besides as far as this current situation goes, between Palistine and Israel are not both peoples of semetic origin , my question being ? how could any educated person support a war that kills semites then label someone who opposses this conflict "Anti- Semite ".
I fear that the massive oil and Gas reserves under Gaza and just offshore have much to do with this current situation. And why this is not being discussed in the News Media has much to do with who manages the media.

the reason that country gets away with what it does is obvious,sorry you cna't see whats in front of your eyes.who do you think owns the banks? who do you think owns the munitions companies? these people have had more people killed in the name of god and then tell you your anti semite if you don't agree. listen thier way of life is coming to an end very soon,dont get too upset over things thet you have no control over,if you want to fight back find the companies they own and don't support them.it's not easy but when you realize that this is just a matrix and your thoughts can control the outcome peace of mind will be yours

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I don't understand the jew iceberg thing you previously referred to Also, I in no way think that all of one race, creed, ethnicity, or gender of people are all the same. That is way too broad a stroke to be painting with, knowing what kind of diversity exists in just my race, creed, ethnicity, and gender.
However, I do not see how anyone could possibly think that Israel is justified in these or any past acts of terrorism. The country was re-established by forces outside of the region without any regard to those who actually live in the region. The best analogy I can think of is this: what if the nations of China, Russia, and North Korea (or any nations for that matter) decided that the states of Texas and California needed to be given back to Mexicans because Taoism or some Aztec religion promised it to them? After all, they were there before Americans, right? Do you think that Texans or Californians would just give up their property, business, and way of life because someone else said too?
Futhermore, America is responsible for arming Israel with virtually all of their weapons, and (historically) turns a blind eye to their terrorist acts while the media goes above and beyond to demonize and ridicule Arabs (who owns the media). This is an obvious double standard. I do not believe that either side is innocent, but I do believe Ameria is the ultimate instigator.
Who else is an ally of Israel? Don't many people think that the media played a major role in the election of our new president, is that even refutable? Is it coincedence that those who question Israel are racists in the exact same way that those who question Obama are? Are there any coincedences?

The Israeli fear of criticism and their instant rebuttal of anything negative written or said about them is understandable given their history of statelessness, and their reluctance to properly assimilate in the countries of their hosts. The policy of the Jewish people in every country they have settled in has been to remain separate from the indigenous population but buy influence among the leadership, to attain their security. That policy has failed many times, which resulted in them being expelled from various countries, and to the many pogroms they have suffered. It is a great pity because they have furnished much of value to the world. Even to this day they feel that they might be driven from their new homeland, given a change in policy by their benefactors. The problem for many non Jews, is the instant denial by Jews that they have done anything wrong when they most assuredly have. It does not win them any friends.

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I agree with you but on an important point :

"Israel and the Palestinians have the right to exist."

Therefore any discussion is based on this postulate, the debate is biased.

One has to NEVER FORGET the origin of the state of Israel.

Telling that "Israel has the right to exist" means that BECAUSE God gave this land as the "promised land", or BECAUSE the jews suffered the Holocaust, they have the RIGHT to chase the Palestinians from the land they belonged, an settle on their place.

This is the zionist argument and NO person unless beeing pro-zionist can agree with. I wonder how the Americans, so attached to the protection of the individual property-, can agree with this biased logic.

As so for the Palestinians "having the right to exist" ...
Please tell me how a people living on it's own land, couldn't have "the right to exist" ?
Could this mean that somebody could deny them "the right to exist" ?

And please, don't forget that what is to day the state of Israel, was built sixty years ago by terror and armed force on a land which was by no way "a land without people for a people without land" : it was a land inhabited and owned by the Palestinians, for more than 90%.

The "Palestinians", nowaday more than 4 million refugies, have indeed "the right to exist" ...

a silly term "anti-semitic" is...))

please consider the meaning and the origin of the term Semitic and to whom it refers!

en.wikipedia.org...

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