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Topic started on 5-1-2009 @ 05:25 PM by centurion1211

In a find that may end up re-writing Roman and European history, archeologists in central German have the remains of a battlefield between the Roman and barbarians dated hundreds of years after it was thought that Romans had abandoned the area.

CNN Article

HANOVER, Germany (CNN) -- Archaeologists have found more than 600 relics from a huge battle between a Roman army and Barbarians in the third century, long after historians believed Rome had given up control of northern Germany. Some of the artifacts are so well preserved that the scientists can already retrace some of the battle lines.

"We have to write our history books new, because what we thought was that the activities of the Romans ended at nine or 10 (years) after Christ," said Lutz Stratmann, science minister for the German state of Lower Saxony. "Now we know that it must be 200 or 250 after that."

reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 05:27 PM by jam321

Now we know why history is so difficult to learn.

It is constantly being rewritten with just about each new discovery.

Good find.

reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 06:26 PM by Hanslune

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Yep it keeps changing, information is added and interpretations are altered, nearly on a daily basis. This is good evidence of a Roman punitive raids that use to take place at that time. Orit might have been a German Auxiliary/local levy ally of rome - the unit being destroyed after being formed. The answer is unfortunately lost in time.

Certainly it would have been an interesting tale to hear.

reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 06:38 PM by mel1962

Nice find, are there any maps of the site? Interesting stuff, 3rd century was the beginning of the end of the Romans!

reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 08:46 PM by Byrd

That would be about the time of the "year of three emperors" and the "Revolt on the Rhine" -- or the revolt of Aurelius Carausius -- as Rome starts to fall apart (and will later rise again under Constantine after 300 AD.)
www.historycentral.com...

It's possible that these troops are descendants of the original Roman troops in the area and maintained a loyalty to Rome. This happened in Egypt during the time of Julius Caesar, when the Galbinian (I believe that's who they were) troops, sent to Egypt in the time of Cleopatra's father, were mustered to serve under Caesar. (note: the name may not be correct... I don't have my reference books nearby.) These troops are only rarely mentioned; an outpost such as that where the Romans married German women and their descendants may still have thought of themselves as Roman is a very likely scenario.

...as is the possibility that some of the Germanic tribes, hearing of revolts in other places, decided to kick the Romans out.

reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 08:57 PM by Hanslune

Where the Roman empire was is often not that well known. Its civilization leaked over the borders. As demonstrated by the Roman finds in Ireland. There was probably a semi-civilized zone along the Roman Limes and the Danube and Rhine rivers.

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