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Predestiny and free will are actually two perfectly compatible subjects.
Originally posted by rekar
Explain how Randomness doesnt give you Free Will...
Originally posted by melatonin
Randomness provides no ability for free will. Determinism is suggested to also provide no place for true free will.
Originally posted by theresult
reply to post by redled
Sorry didnt mean to be rude :| and yes im often called a F***wit
Humanity is so much more complex, it does not have to just mathematically work, it has to work with reality
why? You are not telling me nothing new..
It has to work with reality ? and what is maths based on? reality? lol
Thats why the matrix movie is so good ITs maths! a stupid loop of total nonsens
And you word it very well yourself I was mearly pointing out The is a real code but its not MATHS.. its a level UP.. just becouse its ELOGICAL does not mean its not "just means we dont know the start of the end of the code"
Its like being droped in the middle of a dna strand and working out what dna is.. Pointless..
and yes prove me wrong ..
Originally posted by aleon1018
Even blessings are said to become a curse.
Originally posted by badmedia
There is no such thing as random. Random does not logically exist. A computer can not generate a random number. Only consciousness/free will has the FREEDOM needed to actually generate a random number. The random numbers computer programs generate are actually predictable - because they rely on the logic and are bound by that logic to generate a number. As it is bound to that logic, it doesn't have the free will to generate something beyond that logic.
Random is just yet another illusion provided by the state of limited perception.
Probably the biggest mistake someone can make is thinking they are part of the logic/creation rather than the source that creates it.
Originally posted by redled
Originally posted by badmedia
There is no such thing as random. Random does not logically exist. A computer can not generate a random number. Only consciousness/free will has the FREEDOM needed to actually generate a random number. The random numbers computer programs generate are actually predictable - because they rely on the logic and are bound by that logic to generate a number. As it is bound to that logic, it doesn't have the free will to generate something beyond that logic.
Random is just yet another illusion provided by the state of limited perception.
Probably the biggest mistake someone can make is thinking they are part of the logic/creation rather than the source that creates it.
If I shuffle cards like I like and you like you like and we take turns, it will end up so chaotic as to make it to the questioner, random.
Originally posted by badmedia
I subscribe to free will rather than fate/destiny because I prefer not to take on the role of the victim. Fate and destiny is IMO to play the role of the victim, where as free will puts you in the role of responsibility for your actions - reaping what you have sown.
Originally posted by theresult
Originally posted by redled
Originally posted by badmedia
There is no such thing as random. Random does not logically exist. A computer can not generate a random number. Only consciousness/free will has the FREEDOM needed to actually generate a random number. The random numbers computer programs generate are actually predictable - because they rely on the logic and are bound by that logic to generate a number. As it is bound to that logic, it doesn't have the free will to generate something beyond that logic.
Random is just yet another illusion provided by the state of limited perception.
Probably the biggest mistake someone can make is thinking they are part of the logic/creation rather than the source that creates it.
If I shuffle cards like I like and you like you like and we take turns, it will end up so chaotic as to make it to the questioner, random.
Only 2 colours in a deckof cards.. and btw they are all cards lol
3 things..
+ cards in deck
probiblity thats called have fun !! or watch the movie about the collage geeks who rinsed a casino doing just that
Originally posted by theresult
So im free to question maths then right?
To question the understanding of it.. yes.. why? i dont know i just do..
I like how you said if there are no reasons then there should be no questions..
we are maths we are what we see and think.. its so complex but simple..
My honest opinion on everything? we are in something alive.. and we are preprogrammed much like the cells in your body... by dna.. we do think we have a choice.. becouse we do! but we dont have a choice in being alive.. and never will.. unless we make it.. "kids" ect..
Its all odd ill give you that much