Hamas brutalizes internal enemies

How do you know they didn't?

Palestinian Affairs: Shooting for control
Dec 18, 2008


www.jpost.com...

edit: link being goofy again.



[edit on 5/1/09 by MikeboydUS]

Those terrible events are not acceptable in our societies. They rarely happen.
People mention Waco. Waco was almost 16 years ago! 16 years! Bloody sunday was in 1972!

Your comparing isolated incidents in our past to chronic and current events involving Hamas.

I was in Iraq and Afghanistan. We did our best to be respectful to civilians and help people. We handed out humanitarian aid, school supplies, and toys. In our combat operations we were severely restricted when dealing with populated areas. We even had missions canceled due to the proximity of civilians.

Have you never considered silent weapons for silent wars. What are social workers doing. If they do not like you at school, it could ruin your life for ever.

UK and USA are crooks as much as hamas, it is just you ignore the truths in the west.

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Just because the people you knew and you yourself were good, doesn't mean everyone there is.


Yes, they may have een in the past, but if I had a penny for everytime I have seen someone say the middle east countries are stuck in the past I would be rich.

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If you want to talk about that kind of corruption. That is everywhere. No nation or people on the face of this planet doesn't have some level of corruption and abuse going on.

That kind of corruption and abuse doesn't compare to the terror and tyranny of Hamas. How can you equate the targeted assassination of children under the age of ten to corrupt social workers?

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Too many decorations on your Christmas tree mate. What Palestinians do to their traitors is their business. Britain executed its WW2 traitors.

We are more concerned about the mass killings of civilians by Israel.

I don't have a Christmas Tree mate.

How can you call Fatah traitors? Especially their wives and children?

Who are We? Why is We not concerned with Hamas killing and maiming Palestinian women and children?

Nobody has claimed they arn't. What they are claiming is that this is something that happens under most governments...

It is not surprising this is happening.

You summed up Irael in this opperation perfectly. Airstrikes on defencelss people and artillery bombardment (including White Phospherous!). Cowards if ever!

There are many suppressed stories of US Marines rapeing family members (as young as five!) in frot of Iraqi families to get them to talk, also killing them and torturing them untill someone tells them something.

As mentioned about the IRA, there were many government ordered execuations, which also involved witnesses being silenced (aka the family members present at time). What makes any story of Hamas taking out Fatah members any worse than the acts our governments have carried out in the past?

Also what makes this souce credible? For all we know it is either Israel or Fatah (or both), looking for some propeganda to make Hamas look evil and deserved of a beating from Israel.

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No Christmas tree? Too bad.

Hamas killing the wives and children of Fatah official? Did you put a link up or should we take your word for it?

Again you forget the atrocities happening in Gaza right now. Women and children by the hundreds are getting maimed and killed at the hands of Israelis.

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Well, why don't you unsuppressed those stories and prove what you are saying?

I ask again, can you provide a link to a verifiable website showing that Hamas killed women and children associated to Fatah?

It's an eye opener.

No we will leave that to your congress who are hideing the evidence, we know it exists, because whistle blowers have let the US know they exists and where they are.

Course they do. Same in Britain. Dr Kelly 'committed suicide' when none of his forsensic clues indicated it. Conclusion, stand in the way of 'New' Labour, and they will murder you, no matter how right you are, provided of course they can get away with it politically, which with their 'cool' whispering campaigns makes it all the more likely. Socialism now is Nazi Socialism, Hamas style or Gordon Brown style.

Wouldn't Fatah trying to overthrow Hamas from power equal treason?

Having their hands broken to keep them from arming themselves, compared to the death penalty found in other countries seems a little more lenient.

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For Bob's sake there is a link on page one of this thread.

Sons of Hamas opponent shot dead in Gaza
www.independent.co.uk...

Yeah, big deal, most political parties destroy their opponents and enemies alike if they can. 'It does not matter what I do in power, rather what power I have.' - Blair, Bush, joint communique over Iraq.

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If you and others like you feel that everyone does these horrible things all the time, what is your objective?

Are you using these assumptions to excuse Hamas and terrorism? Do you feel that since others are believed to do it, then its ok for Hamas to do it?

What exactly is the goal here?

If you say all sides are at fault and side with no one, I can sympathize with that.

If its something else, then you and others like you have an agenda.

Just want to say thank you for your service.

Hamas is a terrorist group period! They are barbarians who have brought a lot of pain to the Israeli's and Palestinians both. They need to be stopped
at all cost.

To compare the US military to Hamas is absurd. There are isolated incidents in all combat. Remember war is hell!!

You are presenting an illogical argument. One is bad so all are bad and to the same extent? It doesn't work. Even Hamas' leaders son turned on him, apparently he had seen enough of the atrocities perpetrated by his own father. Isn't that enough to show you how truly evil and misguided these people are?

Here is the thread regarding Hamas' leader and son
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread381493/pg1

Bob, Hamas condemned these murders along with Fatah. Could there be a third party involved maybe stirring the pot a little?

What about your 'women and children'? I took it to mean some kind of systematic slaughter like what Israel is currently doing in Gaza.