Originally posted by StevenDye
No, we took people, forced them to kneel on the streets, put guns to their heads and pulled the trigger, a slow, all knowing experience.

We fired into unarmed crowds, killing unarmed innocent people who put their arms up to surrender, killing people who we trying to help the wounded, shooting people in the back as they ran. Specifically targeted.

Why are we so much better?

We don't even know about all the things we have done in Ira and Afghanistan.

Those terrible events are not acceptable in our societies. They rarely happen.
People mention Waco. Waco was almost 16 years ago! 16 years! Bloody sunday was in 1972!

Your comparing isolated incidents in our past to chronic and current events involving Hamas.

I was in Iraq and Afghanistan. We did our best to be respectful to civilians and help people. We handed out humanitarian aid, school supplies, and toys. In our combat operations we were severely restricted when dealing with populated areas. We even had missions canceled due to the proximity of civilians.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
The UK and the US does not kill or maim family members of people it considers criminals.

Have you never considered silent weapons for silent wars. What are social workers doing. If they do not like you at school, it could ruin your life for ever.

UK and USA are crooks as much as hamas, it is just you ignore the truths in the west.

Originally posted by masonwatcher
reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread424824

Too many decorations on your Christmas tree mate. What Palestinians do to their traitors is their business. Britain executed its WW2 traitors.

We are more concerned about the mass killings of civilians by Israel.

I don't have a Christmas Tree mate.

How can you call Fatah traitors? Especially their wives and children?

Who are We? Why is We not concerned with Hamas killing and maiming Palestinian women and children?

Nobody has claimed they arn't. What they are claiming is that this is something that happens under most governments...

It is not surprising this is happening.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
The US and UK does not do that. Only cowardly dogs who are afraid to fight face to face do that.

You summed up Irael in this opperation perfectly. Airstrikes on defencelss people and artillery bombardment (including White Phospherous!). Cowards if ever!

There are many suppressed stories of US Marines rapeing family members (as young as five!) in frot of Iraqi families to get them to talk, also killing them and torturing them untill someone tells them something.

As mentioned about the IRA, there were many government ordered execuations, which also involved witnesses being silenced (aka the family members present at time). What makes any story of Hamas taking out Fatah members any worse than the acts our governments have carried out in the past?

Also what makes this souce credible? For all we know it is either Israel or Fatah (or both), looking for some propeganda to make Hamas look evil and deserved of a beating from Israel.

How can you call Fatah traitors? Especially their wives and children?

I ask again, can you provide a link to a verifiable website showing that Hamas killed women and children associated to Fatah?

It's an eye opener.

Originally posted by jam321
Well, why don't you unsuppressed those stories and prove what you are saying?

No we will leave that to your congress who are hideing the evidence, we know it exists, because whistle blowers have let the US know they exists and where they are.

Wouldn't Fatah trying to overthrow Hamas from power equal treason?

Having their hands broken to keep them from arming themselves, compared to the death penalty found in other countries seems a little more lenient.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS

Originally posted by StevenDye
No, we took people, forced them to kneel on the streets, put guns to their heads and pulled the trigger, a slow, all knowing experience.

We fired into unarmed crowds, killing unarmed innocent people who put their arms up to surrender, killing people who we trying to help the wounded, shooting people in the back as they ran. Specifically targeted.

Why are we so much better?

We don't even know about all the things we have done in Ira and Afghanistan.

Those terrible events are not acceptable in our societies. They rarely happen.
People mention Waco. Waco was almost 16 years ago! 16 years! Bloody sunday was in 1972!

Your comparing isolated incidents in our past to chronic and current events involving Hamas.

I was in Iraq and Afghanistan. We did our best to be respectful to civilians and help people. We handed out humanitarian aid, school supplies, and toys. In our combat operations we were severely restricted when dealing with populated areas. We even had missions canceled due to the proximity of civilians.

Just want to say thank you for your service.

Hamas is a terrorist group period! They are barbarians who have brought a lot of pain to the Israeli's and Palestinians both. They need to be stopped
at all cost.

To compare the US military to Hamas is absurd. There are isolated incidents in all combat. Remember war is hell!!

You are presenting an illogical argument. One is bad so all are bad and to the same extent? It doesn't work. Even Hamas' leaders son turned on him, apparently he had seen enough of the atrocities perpetrated by his own father. Isn't that enough to show you how truly evil and misguided these people are?

Here is the thread regarding Hamas' leader and son
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread381493/pg1