Originally posted by airteck


I am happy to see Iran standing up in this situation.

Seriously? Really? You're happy the Iranians are about to wade in?

If Iran attacks israel then that'll count as an act of war against an ally of the united states in the middle east.

thats only going to drag the US directly into the conflict, whaich means the united kingdom will be dragged into it too

and if Iran have developed nuclear weaponry it sure as hell wont have the range to hit the US, The UK will be the country that gets hit. We'll take the hit.

No, this situation is escalating. I can see this as the gear up to WWIII

I have been telling people all along that we should look at this scenario. I believe Israel did this because they knew that Iran would run to the Palestinians(Gaza's) aid, then that would give both Israel and the United States to bomb the "you know what" out of Iran's Nuclear Facilities. Doesn't anyone remember how that Israel made practice bombing runs to Iran not too many weeks ago? They didn't do that just to be killing time and wasting precious jet fuel, but wanted to make sure those fighter jets with the extra fuel tanks(Jets supplied by "US") would make it there and back on a bombing run.

Also, if we start bombing the heck out of Iran, Russia is one of their allies, and that might pull them in too, because Russia is the one helping Iran build up their nuclear facililities. Plus, Russia did Navy sea drills a few years ago and practiced mock attacks against Great Britain "if need be."

So, what if Iran attacks Israel, Israel then attacks Iran, then Russia surprise attacks Britain, and then China decides it is a great time to take over Taiwan (for they also have been flying over Taiwan and Japan on missions)? I mean, folks, we could be staring World War III in the face now, and not even realize the gravity of the situation till it is too late. Remember, World War I began all because someone assassinated the Arch-Duke of Austria, Franz Ferdinand. So then, why couldn't World War III begin because Israel initiated an assault on Gaza, and then Iran decides to throw their hat in the ring, too, then Russia, then China......

The storm clouds are gathering, so I just hope that we are prepared for what might happen next!

~ Lonelypoet

Ginge, you are so right, you read my mind, or I read yours, because I had not even read your post before I wrote mine.

Ginge, and to the rest who read this, Russia conducted Navy Battleship drill a few years ago, around 2003, I think, and practiced attacks against Great Britain, if need be. So Ginge is right, for this would draw us into it, and maybe that is why that the US countered the UN's call for a cease-fire in Gaza, maybe this is planned, so we can get into a fight with Iran. It sure looks like something is "being staged." Also, Russia is an ally of Iran, so folks, we might just be facing World War III, and the crap may hit the fan "SOON!"

~ Lonelypoet

Originally posted by masonwatcher
The blockade needs to be broken. We saw what the Israelis did in the Lebanon, now they are using the same fire power against people who have no where to run. It is like shooting fish in a barrel.

It is disgusting.

They arent shooting at the civilians.
Israeli soldiers have been stationed in Gaza for years, protecting children walking to and from school.
They are shooting at Hamas, the people that fire, and create terror, on these poor people trying to live their lives.
Civilians get trapped in the crossfire, its happened in every war.

Over 700,000 Iraqi civilians have died and have been tortured by the US govt.
Your statement above suggests that you would see fit for another country to come in and wipe us off the face of the earth.
But then what happens?
Just more innocent people die.

Please, take this hate elsewhere people.
Aim it in a positive direction.
This hatred is eating everyone up inside, even if you cant feel it.
DO you really want Isreali civilians to die to make up for the civilians caught in the crossfire?
DO you think the lives of 700,000 Americans would make up for the lives lost in Iraq?
Be honest. Put this hate aside. All lives lost is sad, and very regrettable. Even for those poor terrorists that think they need to do this to reach happiness... its just sad.

Most of you have convinced me of one thing, you do not want peace, you much prefer victory, you long to see Israel defeated.

Dream on, Niether Russia nor China has a Navy worth considering, and so niether will come to Iran's rescue. Iran will do nothing. The only group keeping aid from the people in Gaza is Hamas, who cares more about war against Israel than they care about their own children.

While you try to pretend that Palestine is the victim, your constant calls for the destruction of Israel, and the villification of everything Jewish reveals you to be hateful and spiteful beyond all reason.

Hamas has been shooting rockets into Israel, without retaliation, for months, killing civilians. If drug cartes were shooting rockets into San Diego, El Paso, or Brownsville, how long would it take for the US to retaliate?
Israel has actually been calling families and letting them know they are about to bombard an area, and giving the civilians time to evacuate. Even Hesbollah has condemned the actions of Hamas.
Now, if Iran gets involved, then the army has to directly face the US army if they go across Iraq. If they try naval manuevers, they they are screwed because they will have to face the US navy, and I'm sure the Brits aren't going to stay our og this one.
We will pull a few strings and get rid of What'shisname, and put in a puppet government friendly to the US. (Don't wince. It won't be the first time.) and if a few Russians are killed while working in Iran, I wouldn't worry. Russia is not going to risk a military confrontation with the US right now. They are about to swing world opinion, and they don't want to screw that up.

The Iranian ship heading for Gaza (has it left port yet?) has been preparing this voyage for weeks, long before the current attacks against Gaza started. It is doing so on behalf of the Red Crescent with humanitarian supplies, NOT bristling with guns and thousands of Iranian Jihadi suicide bombers. It's one of many planned relief boats, some of which already attempted sailing into Gazan waters but which were intercepted by the Israelis (in international waters - an act of piracy?).

If Israel does attack the vessel, I don't think Iran is going to wade in guns blazing but it will once again put Israel under the spotlight for preventing humanitarian aid from reaching those they oppress.

Iran Threatens to Break Israel's Gaza Blockade

I wish Iran would do more than that (come on Ahmadinejad, fulfill your promises, coward). These arrogant self-righteous special chosen ones in Israel need to be dealt a strong dose of retaliation for all their years of B.S. over there!

Isreal aren't the evil ones. Hamas aren't the evil ones. Religion is. The cause of most wars throughout history. God is a myth

I find it amazing and am in deep shock to see members here debating wether the u.s. would help israel if iran is to do something. Is this what humanity has come to, who has ally's to help kill more people. Instead of thinking about stuff like that, people need to think of a resolution to end this before it gets any worse. I'm sick to my stomache when I watch the news and hear the reporters say that "unfortunately" civilians were killed in cross-fire, does anyone deserve an unfortunate death? Is all this worth it? I think not..

Israeli soldiers have been stationed in Gaza for years, protecting children walking to and from school.

You haven't seen the same videos I have. I've seen IDF guys swearing at a human rights worker, because she asked them to stop this Israeli kid throwing stones at her. I've seen plenty of IDF guys standing around doing nothing while Israelis harrass Palastinians.

All I did was go to www.liveleak.com and search for Gaza, try it yourself if you have the stomach for having your perception challenged.

Originally posted by Ginge

Originally posted by airteck


I am happy to see Iran standing up in this situation.

Seriously? Really? You're happy the Iranians are about to wade in?

If Iran attacks israel then that'll count as an act of war against an ally of the united states in the middle east.

thats only going to drag the US directly into the conflict, whaich means the united kingdom will be dragged into it too

and if Iran have developed nuclear weaponry it sure as hell wont have the range to hit the US, The UK will be the country that gets hit. We'll take the hit.

No, this situation is escalating. I can see this as the gear up to WWIII

Highly unlikely Iran will join in the fight at Gaza coz Iran is a chicken like the Hamas, hiding behind women and children when firing the rockets.

Since when have we seen Iran talk loud and actually show some action?
None!

Guns blazin, and strong dose, sounds like the religion of peace is flying its flag. Niether of these actions is going to help the Palestinians, only those who want to see more war. Only those who would rather hate than look for a way to peace.

The people of Palestine would be far better off to embrace Israel and the Israelis for the technological prowess they bring to the Middle East. This is something that the Middle East seriously lacks, and when the oil runs out, by learning from the Israelis, the Palestinians could be in a very good position in the Middle East. Do you want to spend your days worshipping a God that is more generous to the technologist than those who spend their days praying, or do you want to learn how to make things happen in this world.

Iran is all talk but no action. A bag of hot gas.

If they want to wipe them off the map stop being a pussy and just do it!

The same goes to Israel.

Use those nukes, man. It's the perfect time. With the US and the UN with their collective heads so far up in their asses right now it's the perfect oppurtunity.

Why keep the nukes if they don't plan of ever using them?

Also this would be a great oppurtunity for the rest of the rich Arabs to turn a blind eye for the 10000000000th time!


[edit on 6-1-2009 by SkepticalSpectacle]