I'm sick of the war! And I'm ashamed of my fellow ATS members. , page 4


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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 02:29 PM by putnam6
reply to post by SLAYER69





If they farted in the foxhole


Damn Slomo what did you have for dinner?


I don't know coulda been the cabbage of coulda been the Hummus.

In my best Jackie Mason Voice


reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 02:52 PM by N3krostatic
This post is the kind of post I really could go into detail in. What would it help though? Stating my opinions and reasoning will not change anyone and ultimately we are trying to change others to see from our perspective instead of theirs. Debate and argument leaves us enemies or allies depending on opinion.

Why is that so important. Why can't we recognize each other as individuals and let religion be something purely of a personal nature not affecting the surrounding world we live in? Ultimately my hope for man is minute and maybe we will pull our heads out and say to ourselves "My opinion and idea of the way it is, is not so important for anyone but me. I should understand people have the choice to do as they feel is correct for them. I will not hate them for it because every mans journey is his own".

We are like children in the home fighting over who gets the new toy or who gets the biggest bowl of ice cream. There are basic principles I think should be upheld that are obvious such as murder and the like should not be accepted. We need to admit that we can and are usually wrong about most things, keep an open mind and don't make immediate judgements about others. Religion IMHO is the root of our problems. Ever notice how it is sooo touchy with others. And even then it is not so much religion but the translation of it. We cannot translate or take it seriously as it is not much more than a story or book of opinions and guidelines. (Might get flamed for that, sweet....)
Lets see the real issue at hand as a people and help each other to a better future.

[edit on 5-1-2009 by N3krostatic]


reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 03:02 PM by zysin5
reply to post by SLAYER69



Hail, and hail! I have been stating this very thing for some time now.
ATS members should be on top of this and realize how bad we are being divided!! We are being torn down mentally, spiritually! And divided into little ATS factions!!

I will take no part in any little one sided faction!
I will not express my feelings, nor will I bait you into a hateful remark..

Thanks for the thread.. A fresh breath of air..
Its why I have you as a friend on here


reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 03:02 PM by N3krostatic
reply to post by whiskeyswiller



Because without debate and discussion we continue in our self denial of knowledge refusing to admit to anything except what we have been raised to believe and what the general consensus of society dictates. Setting stakes saying this is the way it is accomplishes nothing. And sometimes being so sure about your beliefs and ways only makes it harder to see the truth elsewhere. Sometimes we only truly learn when we realize we know nothing of what we thought we did. Try to not make snap judgements friend. We need eachothers "intelligent" input to further our own development and to possibly save us from ourselves.


reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 03:12 PM by Alpha_Magnum
Originally posted by zysin5
reply to
post by SLAYER69



Hail, and hail! I have been stating this very thing for some time now.
ATS members should be on top of this and realize how bad we are being divided!! We are being torn down mentally, spiritually! And divided into little ATS factions!!

I will take no part in any little one sided faction!
I will not express my feelings, nor will I bait you into a hateful remark..

Thanks for the thread.. A fresh breath of air..
Its why I have you as a friend on here


So let me ask then. Is what you want for ATS and the general population .... MASS CENSORSHIP....


reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 03:24 PM by zysin5
reply to post by Alpha_Magnum



Not at all. I just want people to realize they are being controled. Being lead into divisions. Playing on the strings of the master minds of this world. To what end? Censorship no. Knowledge yes.
Its how you read into my post. From only 1 point of veiw.
You didnt take a moment to understand why I feel this way. You only want to make your own claim to the reality of my post.
You see how this works? People all over claiming they know what is right for me.. Or what is right for you.
Besides.. Its not up to me.. or I could say # on here...
Get my #ing point?
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