I’m Sick Of The Anti Israel Sentiment Here On ATS!

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posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 12:38 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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Once upon a time there was a man who claim that Gos spoke to him. According to that man - the God told him that they are the "chosen people" and it is OK to kill any "gentile" and steal their property.
To mine understanding - letter on those "God words" become fundamental to a jews religion. Am I wrong?.
To mine understanding - the God said that "all man are created equal". That means that no one it is chosen. Am I wrong or God lied to us.
The state of Israel assume a property and murder most of that land occupants. The remaining occupants was forced to live in restricted area.
What would that remind you of from US history?. Am I wrong or the Native American Indians are coming to my mind.
If what I am saying it is correct then would you like to live near a people like those jews. I maybe wrong but if the Indians will try to reclaim their property
they will be "wipe-out" by US army. Jews have no right to claim a property they abounded 1000 years ago.
I am not a muslin nor a indian. Just regular white man with catholic background.
Thanks you.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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You should be banned. If I was a mod I'd ban you. Welcome to the prestigeous downtown436 foe list. You will find yourself amongst some of the whiniest members on ATS.

If you can't handle freedom of speech, move to china.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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I really don't think ATS has a problem with anti semitism at all. This is just a case of sticking up for the underdog. I couldn't care less which religious or political faction any of these people are from, and I'm sure many here feel the same way. We just want the violence to stop.

We dont support air strikes or ground offensives. This means we support suicide bombings? no not really.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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Wow, interesting point of view. Historically, the Jews did not abandon the property, and they did not take it over again, hence your argument is baseless.

Next, consider yourself in the Israeli position. For weeks, some people have been lobbing missiles on your neighborhood. Whatcha gonna do? Keep watching while more innocents are being killed, or defend yourself? I vote for defend yourself.

Palestinians were given the Gaza by Israel. Israel won the 6 day war and obtained the Gaza and property all the way to Egypt. They relinquished much of that land later, but retained the Gaza. Later, they gave up the Gaza strip as a sign of good faith and wanting peace with the Palestinians. The public news has recordings after that event showing Arafat never intended for peace with Israel, no matter what they did, unless they gave up all the land of Israel.

Historically, the land of Israel was not seized, it was bought. The plan for repatriation of Israel to its lands was formulated in the 19th century, and enacted by the United Nations in the 20th century. The primary agent in this plan for restoring Israel was Britain, as they had commonwealth properties in the area. So blame it on the British for trying to settle and pacify the middle east area called Palestine.

Ironically, these people are brothers. Until they see that, there will be war.
Hamas will never relent, and Israel will never allow their own destruction.

If you want peace, convince them they should have love for each other. Start with the children, win their minds. Put them together in schools and activities. Build a bridge. It will take many generations.

Simply put, you can't blame Israel for defending itself against the latest attacks.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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Hi all, I have read all of these posts and have opinions myself on this matter. I am a Christian in the U.S. but also live in this world and think I have a general grasp and some common sense. First I'd like to say that Israel did not steal this land in question from anyone. It was GIVEN to them by the United Nations in June of 1948. Israel didnt exist and didnt vote on that resolution. The Muslims, Communists, Socialists, and Capitalists did. Who the puppeteers actually were behind the scenes orchestrating this had nothing but war, conflict, chaos, and anguish in mind. With that said, what was done was done. Here we are 60 years later dealing with the same crap they started dealing with on day 1, 1948. (Israel). To those supporting the Palestinian cause, I respectfully say this: Israel has had 4000 rockets fired into their land since 2002. Where is the International outcry for the human rights violations for those Israeli families? Where is CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS located in Israel documenting and shoving into the public spotlight the plight of the Israelis dodging and weaving rocketfire on a daily basis?. Why is it that the moment Israel responds to these 4000 rocket attacks, the internationl community screams for a cease fire and diplomacy? I just cannot understand how "disproportionate response" only applies to Israel. To Israel I say this: If an animal keeps nipping at your heals and is drawing blood, dont talk to it. Kick it hard enough that it nevers wants to come back. But if it is rabid and doesnt know when to stop, it has to be eliminated. At least thats what the Muslim propoganda is against Israel. (Wiping off the face of the Earth, I hear at least once a week). To the Muslims, I would like to say this. Israel didnt steal anything from you, it was taken from you by the UN (and the puppeteers mentioned above) and given to them. For what reasons, is any conspiracy theorists guess, but I have my own ideas and thoughts. I feel for the Muslims in the middle east and their centuries of enslavement and empoverishment. So many century of violence, intolerance, oppression, murder, and hate by THEIR GOVERNMENTS and THEIR RELIGIONS MULLAHS AND CLERICS. Not by capitalism, socialism, communism, christiantiy, hinduism, judiasm, buddism or anything of the like. Your LEADERS have kept you in the 7th century for generations. Not the U.S. (1776) or Israel (1948). Your faith was around 500 years before the US was even dreamed of. To the Muslim Mullahs, Clerics, FREE YOUR PEOPLE. Let them worship how they choose without threat of DEATH, let them create business and open your markets to the people. Let your people maximize their human potential. Isnt Freedom and liberty the solution to the human condition? Finally, I hope that both sides will put their weapons down. To Israel make sure the Muslims do it first, or you will cease to exist a nation tomorrow. To the Muslims, put your weapons down, and there will be an instanct peace in the world tomorrow. Because of my common sense, I am pro-Israel. Not because of racism or blind Faith, but because of freedom, or the illusion of freedom that we are given. I do not feel, as many here do, that Israel thinks they are BETTER than the Palestinans. I think the Israelis know they are BETTER OFF than the Palestinians. I mean FREEDOM. I cannot think of one instance since Israels inception in 1948 in which they were the aggressor and on offense. I pretty sure HISTORY shows the opposite. I just felt I had to post my thoughts, not to offend, but to vent. Is just me or is it as clear as a cloudless sunny day? If ISrael put their weapons down, they would cease to exist in the world tomorrow. If the Muslims were to put their weapons down, there would be peace throughout the world tomorrow. Keep defending your self Israel and OVETHROW your dictators Muslims, live in freedom, so you may stop blaming the world for 700 yrs. of MISERY



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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You don't need to be very clever to understand that both sides here are COMPLETELY insane and wrong.

I say... stop these pathetic threads about "who is the real enemy" - war needs two participants... and they are both to blame.

Sorry, this is way to low for me!



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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Conflict will never end until all sides that worship a vengeful god realize that their god is in reality THE DEVIL.
Only the devil revels in bloodshed.
An all loving god will never teach that killing another human being is what god wants.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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I think the problem is we keep living in the past, when defending the positions of the warring factions,

It is a feud, people living in the past, and unwilling to forgive.

Don't we perpetuate and keep the feud going by our ugly reminders of what once was,

Are the biblical text really prophetic insights into past, present, and future failures of mankind, pointing to our obvious end, if we don't learn to forgive,

Start with the "NOW."

Maybe it will have rippling effect across the planet,

How many people read this forum daily, try not to make post that would encourage a reader to hate.

Maybe the creator is waiting to see if we can evolve/love, beyond out current state of being.

I don't know what more I can say that hasn't been said over and over again.


[edit on 013131p://bMonday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Muundoggie
Conflict will never end until all sides that worship a vengeful god realize that their god is in reality THE DEVIL.
Only the devil revels in bloodshed.
An all loving god will never teach that killing another human being is what god wants.


They will find something else to fight about,

Honestly, I have to admit,it will end, but not the way we would like.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by mikesingh
It’s beyond belief that so many threads and so many posters here on ATS are anti Israel. And by extension, pro Islamic Jihad that the terrorist groups like the Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, LeT etc are waging not only against Israel but Afghanistan, Iraq, India and many other nations...

Why is there a barrage of blood-and-gore videos (Mostly the same recycled stuff) showing injured and some dead Palestinians due to alleged Israeli air strikes? Why aren’t these posters saying anything about the thousands of innocent women and children killed by suicide bombers – Islamic terrorists - in Iraq, Afghanistan and lately Mumbai, India?


this sounds dangerously close to the typical "you are either with us or against us" rhetoric. Is it so wrong to dispute a religious state without accepting another by proxy?



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by sadchild01
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ok , lets say, I am a simple man , with family , and then suddenly , a bunch of people backed by army armed with automatic rifles , airpower,tanks and bombs , comes and steals my land , murders my family , what am i going to do ... just sit and watch , no i will fight back ....

this is what happened , when Israel was formed , the Irgun terrorists , started a campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide against Palestinians ,



Then there is no solution.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:52 PM
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If there's so much antisemitism on ATS that mr. mikesingh feels the need to complain about it, then who the hell gives him all those stars in this thread???


Anyway, is this supposed to be israeli propaganda thread??
I hope not - if yes...

please keep your #ing war propaganda out of here, israel!
Thank you very much!


Ko3



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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a lot of ATS'ers believe....

jews run the banks

jews pay for the wars

jews back the Tyrants, the Stalin's, secretly Hitler...

is there any proof of this?



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by theindependentjournal

ATS can remove my posts and take my points, hell they can ban me from their threads but til they do I will send copies of their JEW HATING NATURE to the JDL and such for proof of their racism and possible actions against ATS by the JDL.

They deserve nothing more than that considering everyone can see their slant against the Jews by their allowing racist posts against a whole people, ATS does not allow that about other races or peoples on their threads...


For the most part, the recent threads regarding Israel’s actions in Gaza have been critical of Israeli policy with very little mention of the Israeli people or Jews specifically. There have been a few comments here and there from a handful of nuts but that aside almost all of the threads bring up valid, challenging and interesting points for discussion.

I admit that I found those singular posts in the threads to be annoying distractions and yet I put your offensive histrionic posts in league with them. The nerve of you to not only call for censorship because you seem to lack the perceptive skills that would enable you to see the difference between criticizing Israel’s actions and advocating starting up gas chambers, but to threaten ATS itself as well?

I thought you would have gotten how hypocritical it would be of you to start your proposed attack thread on Blacks in response to your views of attacks on Israelis/Jews and that maybe you needed to chill instead.

NOPE...you sink even further and threaten the owners of the site if you don't get your way.

There are far more bigoted threads I've seen that aren't in response to a controversial war that I don't see anyone (especially not you) rushing to halt. I think you and Mike need to both relax, meditate, or whatever you need to do.

Let us maturely discuss the causes and effects of overall or specific tensions in the middle east without people screaming "ANTI-SEMITIC!!" when no one has said anything about hating the Jews.

- Lee



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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ISRAEL has a RIGHT to DEFEND itself. Is that so hard to understand??illumillumui



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 02:08 PM
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STFU!



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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apologies- i was unaware that the middle east was peaceful before israel's ineception. once the middle east lost its common enemy in WWI (ottoman empire) it resumed fighting itself. now that foreign nations have invested in making israel a success, people and the media care again





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