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Topic started on 5-1-2009 @ 08:28 AM by urza2k4




The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Pike August 15, 1871

We all know the pawn atheists movement is growing on all the social networks. watch close the so called debunkers they will say this letter was a fake thats BS. If you cant see this is in there plan you are blind and you deserve whats coming to you...

Good luck and God Bless



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 08:51 AM by muzzleflash


interesting point

that "letter" is apparently 138 years old

if it is true, that he really wrote that, i must admit he has great foresight

however, his plan is deeply flawed and would need alot of adjustment, because there are things he did not forsee

the question is, do the illuminati still follow this plan?



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 08:52 AM by star in a jar


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[however, his plan is deeply flawed and would need alot of adjustment, because there are things he did not forsee ]

I bet he didn't foresee the internet!



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 09:00 AM by theindependentjournal


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Albert Pike and Morals and Dogma and the Illuminati (Masonic) New World Order, very good indeed but the problem is the Jesuits of Rome have a different plan that would serve to make the Roman Catholic Church the worlds Religion in the NWO.

I have a copy of Morals and Dogma from the Masons, I got it at a rummage sale, I don't think the family knew they were to return it to the Masons Lodge at the members death. This book is truly amazing in it's layout of the plan of the Illuminati as well as its laying out who Masons served. Now most Masons will tell you they are not Satanists, but one need look at the writings of the likes of Pike, Bailey, Blavatsky and others like them to know who these people serve.

I will watch this thread with anticipation to see where it goes...



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 09:16 AM by urza2k4


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Here we go with dis info march the Roman Catholic Church is the enemy to the Illuminati always has been go peddle your black pope garbage some were else. IT IS forbidden TO BE A CATHOLIC AND A FREEMASON LOOK IT UP...

"And now, overwhelmed with the deepest sadness, We ask Ourselves, Venerable Brethren, what has become of the Catholicism of the Sillon? Alas! this organization which formerly afforded such promising expectations, this limpid and impetuous stream, has been harnessed in its course by the modern enemies of the Church, and is now no more than a miserable affluent of the great movement of apostasy being organized in every country for the establishment of a One-World Church which shall have neither dogmas, nor hierarchy, neither discipline for the mind, nor curb for the passions, and which, under the pretext of freedom and human dignity, would bring back to the world (if such a Church could overcome) the reign of legalized cunning and force, and the oppression of the weak, and of all those who toil and suffer. We know only too well the dark workshops in which are elaborated these mischievous doctrines which ought not to seduce clear-thinking minds." (Our Apostolic Mandate, Pope St. Pius X, 1910).

Writing in the Italian newspaper Avvenire, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger slammed the UN's proposals for a "New World Order," targeting for special criticism the UN's goal of depopulation. The Cardinal stated that "at this stage of the development of the new image of the new world, Christians--and not just them but in any case they even more than others--have the duty to protest." - Cardinal Ratzinger, September 19, 2000


The one world religion will come out of the United Nations Beware ...



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 09:32 AM by muzzleflash


Originally posted by star in a jar
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[however, his plan is deeply flawed and would need alot of adjustment, because there are things he did not forsee ]

I bet he didn't foresee the internet!




Exactly.

Thats one of the reasons its so deeply flawed



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 09:38 AM by urza2k4


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the plan to usher in the doctrine of Lucife for sure!!! as for the rest history proves there on track with it...



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 10:30 AM by bignick


What exactly is the Luciferian Doctrine ?



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 10:37 AM by theindependentjournal


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Yeah Yeah that's why all the Cardinals are in the Vatican Lodge...

I have heard it all before, and I won't disagree that Rome is against part of the Illuminati the art that wants a non-secular NWO. Rome wants to be the leader of the worlds Religions in the NWO and the Ecumenical movement is evidence of this FACT...

What and who is the Black Pope? i only mentioned the Jesuits in my post so I am wondering what you are talking about, reading into my post are we?

If you would like I will start posting Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger articles too, but I bet you wouldn't like that, unless you're not in the know of his Job and his articles. The Office of the Inquisition is the Pope's old post.

EDIT - I won't respond to your Ashteroth/Diana post as I don't listen to other gods or other doors/gateways to God, so keep your mary to yourself. Jesus s the ONLY DOOR as he stated clearly several times...

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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 11:19 AM by urza2k4


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Pope Benedict's New Year's message condemns abortion, population control wow how evil what a NWO PAWN,


I am Catholic...

I do not have any "faith in myself". I put all of my faith in God. And there is no secrecy at the Vatican. The Vatican has no "wealth". It is all donated money to keep up the Church. Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and the Pope himself have very little if no earthly possesions. And the Vatican has just as much "political pull" as any other major world religion. When your a major world religion you get "policitcal pull" there is no way around it. And the Vatican is not an "idol" that Catholics worship. I don't know how many times I have to say this to Catholic bashers, WE DO NOT WORSHIP ANYONE OR ANYTHING BUT GOD THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT. <--That is ONE God. We do not worship statues, or Mary, or angels, or paintings, or saints, that is all an ignorant lie. We do not believe the Pope is infallable as a human being. We beleive that he is infalable in matters of DOCTRINE. He is stil human and can still sin. And the fathers of our Church did not "make themselves as high preists", as you say. Each Pope is a successor to the original Pope St. Peter. St. Peter was one of the apostles of Jesus Christ. God did give our Church authority. Jesus Christ, who is God, is the one who gave our Church fathers their authority. He said this:

Mat 16:17-19: "17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, THAT THOU ART PETER, AND UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 11:21 AM by urza2k4


The Catholic Church readily readily admits that it's past has at times been corupt. The Church today admits that all of it's Popes have not always been good. The Church has a of list Popes that they call Anti-Popes, because they realize that these Popes were not true. So, Yes, the Catholic Church will be the first to admit that it hasn't always been perfect, but neither has any religion. Any 2000 year old religion is bound to make some mistakes in that amount of time. The Church doesn't hide it, they admit it. But the fact is that the Church always bounces back in the face of corruption and wins, just as the bible said "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT." There is no "black pope" as you seem to suggest with that link. That man is Hans Kolvenbach, and he is a priest and the leader of the Society of Jesus, it is a religious order of monks, not a "secret society". Just because it has the word "Society" in it doesn't make it "secret". They have their own website if you wish to find out more information on them: www.jesuit.org... They are in direct SERVICE TO the Pope. Pope Benedict XVI is the leader of the Catholic church today, not a monk who serves under him. If they wanted Hans to be Pope then they would move him up in the ranks and elect him Pope. He isn't even a Bishop or a Cardinal he has little power compared to the Pope, Cardinals, and Bishops. He gets orders form the Pope not the other way around. Now, you can keep spinning your lies, but I will only come back with the truth.

The NWO will try to turn you away from Gods true church, Can he be trusted if so easily swayed by freemason lies that formulate this disinfo in the truth movement...

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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 11:22 AM by JanusFIN


LOOK AL JAZEERA ON LINE LIVE NOW!

english.aljazeera.net...



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 11:23 AM by urza2k4


Jesus passed the church to Peter from him to the pope = Thus catholic is Truly the church of Jesus....

THAT THOU ART PETER, AND UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH

And yes there are so many churches... so many denominations that's the Elites plan just like how the elite set up dual party government system to make us fight , choose and confuse.

Trust Jesus and his church it will not fall as he promised ,The Illuminati seeks its destruction but cant so they can only try stop you from communing with God ...


You can try to blame everyone involved with the church for what some corrupt ones did to children? It's not about "covering up". It's about forgiveness. Just because your a priest doesn't make you a child molester. The amount of preists who did that were microscopic compared to the good and pious priests that are on this earth. The media just blew it up so much that it seemed like a widespread epedemic. If you trust the media then your not denying ignorance. Catholicism isn't a cult. It's been around for 2000 years, I doubt a "cult" could survive that long. You can believe in whatever conspiratory lies you hear, but don't bash a religion that has been around for 2000 years and is held dear by 1.8 billion people worldwide dont be a ignorant fool. Or are you part of the problem spreading dis-info to the truth movement?

The Rapture methos that is going to lead Christians to the antichrist, King James was freemasonic the protestant and Baptist sects are leading to idolatry of the world of God . Were as the catholic church will never submit to pop culture and dose not support Rapture ( YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THERE FRUITS ) and yes of course there have been infiltrators that seek to harm Gods church from the inside and they have been ousted, as for the God's Banker crap yes more Freemason fine works what did they find in his pockets BRICKS that hmmm can you say masons? just another inside job just like they did with pedfile priest look up how many were freemasons and OTO members that something you didn't see in the news... These vile people needed to be close to church to steal the Host for black masses, why go thru all that trouble and just go to a protestant and Baptist, easy answer no holy Eucharist

Your no better than Zeitgeist to have a opportunity to guide people to the truth and yet you have fallen for the biggest trap of them all leading your herd to the horde and away from Gods Church... I will always pray for you, God Bless


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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 12:52 PM by cosmicpixie


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people get the wrong end of the stick, confusing Satan with Lucifer and/or assuming Luciferianism is dark and evil. For a start, Lucifer was a name mentioned only ONCE in the entire bible, and ONLY in relation to a fallen Babylonian King who wanted to be big and powerful like jehovah so saw himself as "godlike". Lucifer is not and never was a fallen angel. Lucifer means "light bearer" and is typically associated with the planet Venus. Lucifer is not Satan and Luciferianism is not Satanic or evil, neither was Lucifer the serpent in eden or some fallen angel or any angel at all in the bible for that matter. This is simple fact yet SO few people recognize it. As the bible got re-written, the serpent of eden bringing knowledge to man was equated with the devil/satan. The theosophists mistakenly equate the serpent with Lucifer and the religious bunch think the serpent "evil" simply because he went against what "god" had in mind for man and chose to help open mans eyes to his own divinity.

It is essentially a "religion" that is quite gnostic in essence...it focuses on "god" being "within", rather than "without"....the idea is we are god and god is us, there is no separation as such. It is the polar opposite of Christianity as perpetuated with the Church, who focus on worshipping an external deity and being accountable to that deity. Luciferianism basically derives from the serpent in eden account of an enemy of "god" trying to help man open his eyes to knowledge and inisghts "god" did not want us to have. Lucifer=light bearer=opening ones eyes to truth.

Personally I think Luciferianism is a decent philosophy , it's not the message that's the problem, more the people bearing the message and how they plan to try and control society through it and all the evil they will have perpetuated in the world prior to setting the stage to usher in their Luciferian spokesman who will initiate the "new age" .........google Share International and Maitreya.....he's all "ready to go".

ps) the teachings of jesus that got voted against being cannonized are rather gnostic so in fact very similar to Luciferianism........






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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 01:23 PM by urza2k4


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Spoken like a true pawn of the craft...



Lucifer and his angels (devils or evil spirits) are real. The devil is not a figment of one's imagination or a mere symbol of evil; he has personal existence. How do we know he exists? The Bible is a supernatural book of revelations that gives information about the true and living God. It also, it tells about Lucifer and his plans. I do believe Satan and his demons exist, because the Bible says so, because of their existence I am called into a deliverance ministry.

Satan's career begins in a distant past. God created a multitude of angels to do His bidding. In the angelic rank there was one angel who was given the highest position/ guardian to the Throne of the Most High. His name was Lucifer.

Information about Lucifer is revealed to us in Ezekiel 28:11-19. This passage is addressed to the prince of Tyre, a man who was vain because of the wealth he possessed and thought himself to be God. While God is rebuking the prince of Tyre for his vanity, another character called the king of Tyre is introduced. He is revealed to be the real motivator of the prince of Tyre.

Ezekiel 28:11-19 "The word of the LORD came to me: Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre (Lucifer) and say to him: This is what the Sovereign LORD says: You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your setting and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. All the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to horrible end and will be no more."

At this time Lucifer, along with the other angels were in perfect harmony with God. There was no rebellion nor any dissent, there was only one will in the universe, the will of God. Everything was harmonious until Lucifer decided to rebel against God. The prophet Isaiah reveals the unrighteousness in Lucifer.


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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 01:35 PM by ZeroKnowledge


How did he know that it will be "state of Israel"??? In Zionism works of most famous Zionist (Theodor Herzl) it is called - Jewish state (Judenstraat). And this work was publish later then date of your article - 1896. There was a pretty influential group that wanted to name country Judea.
So even Zionist did not know what will be the name, not to mention the location. If several voices went the wrong (or simply different) way - Jewish national home will be in Uganda.
So i am really puzzled by such an accuracy. 67 years in advance.



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 01:41 PM by urza2k4


The sin of Lucifer was rebellion. Five times Lucifer said in his heart, "I will."

* I will ascend into heaven;
* I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
* I will sit upon the mount of the congregation;
* I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
* I will be like the Most High.

Rebellion caused the downfall of Lucifer, it was then that he was transformed into Satan. When Lucifer rebelled, one-third of the angels (Revelation 12:4) rebelled with him, attempting to overthrow the authority of God. This resulted in Lucifer and his cohosts being banished from both God's presence and His favor. We are often asked, "Why would a good God create the devil?" It needs to be stressed that God did not create the devil.

God created Lucifer, the highest ranking of the angels, giving him beauty and intelligence and a superior position to every other created being. He also gave Lucifer a free will to do as he pleased. Eventually, Lucifer decided to stage a rebellion against God, and it was at that point that he became known as the devil or the adversary. He was not created for that purpose, nor did God desire for Lucifer to act independently of His will. However, Lucifer did rebel and consequently became the enemy of God and His work.

The existence of evil and the supernatural realm is led by Satan and supported by his legions of demons. Satan's devices are many, and his methods are as varied as his devices. We as Christian believers are never called to investigate all of these occult phenomena. Preoccupation with Satan's methods is not the best means of approaching our foe, our enemy, the accuser of the brethren. However, this does not mean we are to do nothing. Rather, as Christian believers, we are exhorted in three major areas.

1. We are called to understand- understanding that Satan has already been defeated. Christ's death and resurrection sealed Satan's fate and destruction. That fact became a reality for us when we believed in Christ.
2. We are called to know- know Satan's strategy. Not to know all his methods, but rather his means of operation. This includes him being disguised as an angel of light. Satan's modus operandi, aside from a direct assault of lies, also includes the more subtle and often used art of deception. He seeks to lure through the things of the world and the temptations of flesh. Satan's desire is to replace God's plan with his counterfeit, just as he attempted to do in the Garden of Eden.
3. Besides having a good defense of knowing our position in Christ and recognizing Satan's strategy- We must be on the offensive in what we do. This means knowing God and making Him known. When we get to our LORD and share the gospel it pierces Satan as if with a sword. The LORD through us advances His kingdom and brings Satan's domain to ruin. For our mastery over Satan is not in our power, but in God's power and through His plan. We should share the Gospel with all who are interested.

This is why Jesus said in Luke 10:17-20, we should not rejoice because we have power over demons but because our names are written in the Book of Life. Paul in Romans 1:16 clearly states, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes."

Communicating the Gospel should be our goal, even amid all the conflicts that Satan and the world attempt to throw at us. The command to believers is to grow in the gospel and share it with others. This is gradually and clearly illustrated in chapter six of Paul`s epistle to the Ephesians. The whole point of this chapter is often overlooked, as the emphasis is usually placed on the "armor of God." In the book of Ephesians 6:10-18, Paul points out that the true battle stems out the evil forces in the heavenly realms and that his purpose for life is to spread the gospel. His very prayer at the end of the book, which comes in the context of this section on the armor of God, is for him to be able to make known the gospel.

"Finally, be strong in the LORD and in His mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore, put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist. With the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the Word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions, with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints."

According to 2nd Corinthians 10: 4-5: "The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 03:15 PM by cosmicpixie


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Guess I must be a daughter of Satan then given I practice Astrology and Tarot .

Some of you bible-types are so hopelessly brainwashed and completely lack the capacity to question and research anything beyond what you "believe" it's laughable and so very very SAD.

I do not intend to waste my time talking to you any further, adieu



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 07:11 PM by urza2k4


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you said it not me... now take your broom els were



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