Apologies: Video of Carnage in Gaza Market is a hoax

reply to post by JanusFIN

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Thank you for posting this Janus, I hope this can get to the main page at least for a short while, so that more ATSers will be aware of this truth and hopefully won't use it in the future as some kind of "evidence" relating to today's conflict.

I'll go along with that.

We ALL need to have a little restraint before posting some of this stuff - especially the "sensational news".

You at ATS might have known that but I at ATS did not.

Thanks for clearing this up!

And to those who say "Disinformation abounds, this could be a lie too" I say, anything we suspect of fallibility, should not be entered as evidence.

Click here for more information.

Who started it all? Click here for some history.

www.palestinefacts.org...

I found the link on lunarminer's post here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If people are so unsure of everything thinking this video could be a hoax on all sides, why even believe it is not an advanced CGI fake from the CIA, or from Iran, or from aliens?

Or believe that it is an event staged in America with secret Middle Eastern hostage slaves? So many possibilities can open up in the realm of speculation. Why even think that this video matters at all if no one is sure what is happening and no one will believe anything concerning events even when researched. It allows a person to make reality whatever they want.

I personally have faith in the media to be accurate on what they are reporting (even though they are wrong and biased at times). I believe that they have a drive to correct themselves when they are mistaken so as to maintain the integrity of their news channel. I believe that they also would look into a story a ton when they can to find out more about it.

This is a case of that. They saw an amazingly shocking video, got a description, put it on TV, then upon looking closer for verification realized they had made a mistake. Sorry, I see no proof of shadow government here or media control. I don't think the presidents of the news networks would allow themselves to be controlled by secret bureaucracies.

Sorry, but secret news control is about as supported as my made up theory that the video was shot in America with Palestinian actor-slaves.

It's war, it sucks, and if there was video from the current war it would look the same. There will always be civilian casualties.

Just think of the things we still aren't seeing from the war in Iraq. You can apologize for posted a misdated video, but don't apologize for showing a video of what war is really like.

Good call,looks like they pulled the wool over our eyes with that vid!I dont think Israel needed to start this ground war after all,all they had to do is wait for a few more Hamas rallies and the rockets would have blown up all by themself!

edit-need a new battery for this keyboard!



[edit on 5-1-2009 by noangels]

If you would like more horrific video's and pictures they are readily available.

I will happily post all the highly graphic pictures of the results of Hamas suicide bombers killing women/children and older people.

Remember, Hamas is very proud of their civilian murdering ways.

The video was proven a hoax and yet some people still stick to it.

Cheers to you JanusFIN

Thanks for checking and posting this info/disinfo.


take care all
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I don't believe anything that I see was produced by Palestinians or by Hamas. A quick visit to youtube, type in 'pallywood', and you will see why. Most of the action is staged for the benefit of those who would benefit from the negative world opinion regarding Israel and the west.

I didn't see this alleged video. Was this a video that damaged the ATS community and other communities? If so, people need to really be aware that lots of videos are just propaganda anyways... and they are made to achieve a point. I think that the fact that this video was a hoax should come as a surprise to no one here on ATS.

Perhaps the only way to know the truth is by going to the battlefield?


If I had armor and money I would go.

reply to post by JanusFIN

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no need to apologize. but if it is true that it has happened few years ago than it is pretty positive that you made that thread here.

probably I am repeating myself but please forgive me. I had no time to go over all replies.

well done anyway

reply to post by Frankidealist35

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this is obvious that a lot of material on the web and in media is fake and made for propaganda. but it is main weapon of that war.

Israelis like to show the blood spreading Hamas "terrorist" and get the green light to total holocaust of Palestine and Hamas started with firing the rockets for puting attention of the world of the situation in Gaza.

they will "nuke" each other thanks to internet before they will do so in real scenario.

I just feel it's sort of ironic that a video released to report the barbarism of Israeli forces, was in fact a video of Hamas extremists injuring and killing their own civilians. Consider this before posting radical ideas about what an evil entity Israel is.

Thanks for posting the correction though.

Who started this? If you are talking about the war and violence, we shouldnt be like a child and ask this question. We know the answer.
If you are talking about staged or hoax events to provoke war, it wasnt hitler. There are numerous examples of it during all the history, but recent example, before hitler there was WW1, the ship that US has sended intentionally in order to be bombed.

reply to post by JanusFIN

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This is what is fundamentally wrong with the internet as a news source or an information sight. So much of what is presented as facts have never been fact check, screen, publisher overview. The internet has destroyed our understanding of what is real and what is not. Good people are not going to try and subverse you and that is exactly what the internet has been turned into. A subversion tool, that only bad people and people without your best interest at heart is going to try and use to exploit. People scream free speech and that its a tool to get to the real truth, when in reality is muddies the water so much that everything is laughable now days. Ten years ago if a UFO Story was given air time on ABC,CBS,NBC then it was taken credibly with anticipation, now days its just another cgi unverified hoaxer from a different reality that is here to warn us of impending doom. ATS has revealed a double edge sword, in there efforts not to stifle free speech and let and loon cock and harry post here, like many other forums, in the name of free speech, they have now all become the butt of one big joke. The way to correct this is to verify then reverify... with the internet verification never happens anymore. This is a downward spiral that is out of control, the people behind it like it, and those who realize its power and deciet dont have the power to stop least we face the machine and it is used against us. Take note

Hopefully there will come a day when justice makes each site owner veryify(to the best of their ability) a source before they post or let anyone use their services to post fictional or slanderous material about an individual or race. There are times that I believe ATS to be a borderline HateSite. I know that ATS does not support the views of people posting but for example there has been so much anit-semetic material on ATS that if I dislike jews, id be in heaven. And for those of you with blinders on it goes both ways... attacks against Palestinians need to be considered hate speech also. I look forward to the day that ATS and all the other misc blogging sites out there can be held accountable along with the individual poster, only then will standards return to the information we recieve thru our computers and tv.

[edit on 5-1-2009 by alienj]

While I don't appreciate your thinly veiled European antisemitism, I appreciate you making this post and admitting you were wrong.

not to say that there is MASS DEATH occuring over there.



If this were any place other than ats... i would advise that you don't tell is at disinformation, for this chaos IS happening.



The people need to coincide and work together.