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reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 04:56 PM by da pickles
reply to post by speed_demon


excellent post its nice to hear from someone with some background knowledge.
the only thing that i want to point out is that most of the hijacked vessels whereabouts is known. unfortunatley they have been condensed into a small area so a millitary mission would be difficult [free 1 ship and watch the consequences]. the whole post stemmed from the fact that there were a lot of navies present in the gulf and for why . pirates/hijackers or to protect international shipping. would it not make sense that the build up could be aimed towards a land based strike . most of the hostiles seem to be operating out of small coastal villages.i do think after all the talk here that the idea that the navies are here to protect/claim artifacts is a bit far gone .



reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 10:28 PM by Zaphod58
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I know a lot about US military ops. If you are going covert then it would be SEAL teams, not Marines. Marines don't do covert. And since most of these ships are being taken close to reinforcements, or ports your SEAL team going after them is going to be in trouble. You say you can have them there in 24 hours, not if you want them to have everything planned out and ready to go, and be effective. It takes time for them to get ready, and to transport them. By the time they get there, the ship is in port with other ships next to it, the crew off, and under guard. Or even if they keep the crew onboard, you have reinforcements right there. So your team storms one ship, what do you think the pirates on the other ships are doing? They're either executing the crews, or they are rushing to fight the team.

I don't underestimate the SEAL teams, but I also don't underestimate the Somali's. I saw what they were capable of in 1993. Yes the Rangers kicked their teeth in, but they also got hurt pretty good doing it.


reply posted on 26-1-2009 @ 03:21 PM by speed_demon
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Marines dont do covert ops Exactly where do you get this information, because I know first hand that we do. 1993 was a long time ago to be in the know about what the military is capable of today. A plan can be formulated and executable within 12-18 hours. I know this from first hand experience, and our plan was formulated in roughly 9 hours and we were on site executing the plan 13 hours after receiving our orders and initial brief on the situation.

Bet you didnt know that a ranger is no better then a Marine basis infantry man. They have all the same training and know how. So what makes the Ranger refrerence funny is they are not really all that great.

Anyways, our militaries know where the hijacked ships are, they are doing nothing about it, but they continue to send more ships into the gulf for what. Definitely not to stop pirate attacks. When this all plays out, I believe we will be in for a big shock, maybe not supernatural but possibly the start of another world war or a huge international incident.



reply posted on 28-1-2009 @ 12:27 PM by da pickles
reply to post by Zaphod58



is it possible that the hijackers havent been challenged as the vessels are not in international waters? it also seems as long as the ransoms are being paid nobody is getting hurt, the vessels are returned intact and with there cargo. as the royal navy carries marines on most of its vessels would an american carrier group, bearing in mind the size of the group, not have special forces on board as standard procedure. if not i would imagine they knew the were heading for a hostage situation and of been deployed all ready to the carrier group. how are we getting info on the hijacked vessels moored along the coast, i would assume there are men on the ground already. the sbs were in south georgia at least three weeks before the falklands task force arrived


reply posted on 4-2-2009 @ 05:52 AM by nwosigns
Originally posted by serenityone

True the media we are told that Naval ships are sent there to stop Somali pirates?
....
Who come in small rubber boats?
To be fought off with several aircraft carriers, destroyers, Nuclear submarines, frigates, missile cruisers and minesweepers?


There“s definately something strange going on here!


Being a newbie on ATS I'm not sure if this is cool or not, but I'll post and leave it to the MOD to keep or delete and hope I don't get flamed.

I did a video on youtube entitled "Gulf of Aden - The Coming Conflict", where I tried to connect some of the dots,
www.youtube.com...

I've seen various sites conjecture that there is a stargate there and it is being used by the Illuminati/elite to leave the planet, while others are saying that the stargate is actually allowing "aliens" to enter our dimension. Some have said it's aliens here to help us, others disagree.

I read somewhere (and I'm still trying to find the source) that the stargate was opened when the LHC was first run last summer. And that the LHC was shut down because they discovered the problem, kinda like the Philadelphia experiment. The cover being that there was a technical glitch with one of the LHC magnets.

I find it amazing that the MSM has said little on the matter, other than the few news blips about "another attempted pirate attack". I've yet to see a full accounting of all the ships and countries being represented.

I hate that we are at the mercy of the few, with regards to information, and wish there was a more viral method of getting news/information to the masses

Shy of an individual flying to the region to do investigative reporting, we're really at the mercy of the MSM. However, the new version of Google Earth makes me hopeful that some of the vital stuff can make it's way to the people.

I hate being in the dark.
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