I must admit I cannot believe many of the comments being made by many American members here on ATS with regard to the plight of the Palestinians.

Complete with all manner of derogative remarks one wonders what this small population of people could have done to incite so much hate against them. Despite the terrorist label the majority are not, they are just ordinary jane's and joe's trying to survive full stop. What makes it even worse is that the US a known sponser and supporter of terrorism goes over the heads of these so called enlightened beings.

How can anyone support the mass murder of innocent and completely unarmed civillians is beyond the pale. Given that half of the population of Gaza are children how can anyone see these as a threat or combatents when they are not.

How can it be that the people of what is supposed to be a great and democratic nation gleefully applaud the slaugther of their fellow human beings. It would be easy to say they are just sick ignorant people but it goes much deeper than that. These are the very mindsets that stuffed people into gas chambers and the killing fields and it is that which is most scary that such mindsets are alive and kicking.

Well from one American thanks for your opinion.

I don’t hate Palestinians, Hamas on the other hand & and the way Israel played right into this …
I think that both sides have been acting like asses and your right the inocent pays for this.

As far as casualties when combatants fight in innocent neighborhoods Children and old people are often the victims it's sad really.

IMO

I'm not feeling humble about this situation I hope both sides get what they deserve!


[edit on 4-1-2009 by SLAYER69]

Flyers, Thats just the point Hamas cannot end it as you put it because the only end that the Israelis want is to be rid of the Palestinian people full stop one way or the other. The fact that Hamas gives them the resoan to kill just makes it easier for the Israelis to achieve their objective.

Thanks for the pro America media propaganda from the gutter press of the US, who could trust them or America to tell the truth about anything. And this thread is not about Gaza its about why some Americans hate Palestinians.

Slayer, the problem is, is that both sides are being used as pawns in a much bigger game but that still does not explain the attitude of so many Americans here on ATS towards the Palestinian people.

Those videos portray the views of some, not all of the people. The title of this thread should be why do some Americans hate Palestinians.

There are Americans, Israelis, and Palestinians who wish for all people to get along and just let us love and care for our families and live our lives. Not everyone wants killing, greed and war.

I don't hate them at all. As a matter of fact I have more sympathy towards them than what I hold for the Jewish people. The Jewish people are acting like the real victims despite the fact that they have stolen these peoples homes and lands. The American people are ignorant sheep and they actually believe the fake news that spewed out every five seconds. I have learned 80% of the American population will believe anything as long as its shown on TV. So don't think every American is the same because We are not because some of us actually look at things from different angles and refuse to be brain washed by the cultural elite.

Lel, My question was why do Americans on ATS hate Palestinians so much. The majoirty of respsonses I have read are full of loathing for the Palestininas and I asked the question why. I can understand it from Israeli members to a point but why so many Americans, why do they feel this way to a people who have done nothing to them but then I could ask why did Americans support the Invasion of Iraq when they had no WMD's and had nothing to do with 9/11, even the Idiot Bush said so in the end.

There is nothing wrong in stating that you made a mistake especially one based on lies and deceit.

Originally posted by lucidclouds
What about the innocent palestinians?

In any conflict, minor or major, innocent civilians always get killed.

Yes hamas are at fault but so are the israelis. To top it off the israelis have more power, therefore as the OP said, should take the lead in making peace.

I am glad you can see both sides of the story, however, I disagree that "Israel should take the lead in making peace since they are stronger". That is twisted logic at best....

Israel is the strongest nation in the middle east because they have to be if they want to maintain their sovereinty and integrety. All the countries in that region dislike "foreigners" and as such would not think twice of annihilating Isreal.

So your saying that israel has the right to defend itself the way it is doing, so how should palestine react? Die out?

Good point! Israel is guilty of overkill and indeed the damage done to palestine is much more than the damage done to Israel but who can really blame them if they are *sick and tired* of being attacked on such a frequent basis? Rockets exploding into peoples home, bus bombings, etc.

If I were the israeli defence minister I would have sent in army troops from the beginning rather than bomb suspected buildings and other hideouts. I think bombing from the air is the cowards way and really it doesn't accomplish much since terrorists constantly change locations. If you want to do it right you gotta search every building and physically collect as much weaponry as possible.

To the OP, I'm from the u.s. and I hate to see genocide, and see so many supporting it.

I don't support genocide either but I am not using "genocide" as an excuse to hate the jews. Indeed if it was an actual genocide tens of thousands would be dead instead of a few hundred. Clearly this is not the case, is it?

[edit on 4-1-2009 by EarthCitizen07]

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Thanks for the pro America media propaganda from the gutter press of the US, who could trust them or America to tell the truth about anything.

Magicmushroom ... those were 'PALESTINIANS' dancing for joy and celebrating 9/11. It had nothing to do with the press. In this case they reported the truth of what was happening. Truth is truth. That's what you see in the news reports.

Originally posted by lucidclouds
What about the innocent palestinians?

What about them? It's sad and sick and there is NOTHING I can do to stop Hamas from using them as human shields. There is NOTHING I can do to stop Hamas from using schools and hospitals and civilian infrastructure as military bases of operation. There is NOTHING that I can do to stop Hamas from smuggling in expensive weapons instead of using the $$$ on education for the 'Palestinians'. There is NOTHING I can do to stop Hamas from continual rocket attacks against innocent Israeli civilians. Israeli civilians have a right to defend themselves.

It's all in the hands of Hamas. They could stop it in a heartbeat.
But they don't want to. Peace would put them out of business.

Yes it does seem that a majority Americans have a biased hatred towards Hamas. Why this is is anynes guess. Nay be they shoud start using there minds a but more. I mean those Palestinians have feeling too you know, they are not so different to you. deep down they are probably the same as you. HAve some compassion to the situation they are in.

kx

To the OP- I can think of several contributing reasons.

1) Americans have never properly felt remorse for their ancestors' stealing the land from the native american tribes and then slaughtering them because they were in the way. In fact, they feel pride in their dark accomplishment, as though they were the great advanced white gods bringing civlization to the "savages", as though they were heroes for stomping out any native americans who dared to fight back. Because they feel no regret, they project their pride onto the parallel situation of Israel taking palestine and slaughtering all the arabs.

2) Because so many jews (the ashkanazis in particular) are basically european in origin, and because there are so many nice civilized european jews living in america, americans find it easier to identify with the jews as "us" versus an arabic "them".

2b) Skin color. They perceive european jews as being "whiter" than palestinian arabs.

3) For all the christian americans, the fact that half their bible is from judaism means that they get a lot of indoctrination into the idea of some "god" selecting jews as a naturally superior chosen race. And because jesus was a jew, they further identify with jews as being a holy "us".

4) They resent the price of gasoline, and the arab elites who they feel are unworthy of taking all their hard earned money. So they blame all arabs.

5) Their government tells them, through endless media stereotypes and spun information, to hate arabs. And they are good little sheeple.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by lucidclouds
What about the innocent palestinians?

In any conflict, minor or major, innocent civilians always get killed.

Yes hamas are at fault but so are the israelis. To top it off the israelis have more power, therefore as the OP said, should take the lead in making peace.

I am glad you can see both sides of the story, however, I disagree that "Israel should take the lead in making peace since they are stronger". That is twisted logic at best....

Israel is the strongest nation in the middle east because they have to be if they want to maintain their sovereinty and integrety. All the countries in that region dislike "foreigners" and as such would not think twice of annihilating Isreal.

So your saying that israel has the right to defend itself the way it is doing, so how should palestine react? Die out?

Good point! Israel is guilty of overkill and indeed the damage done to palestine is much more than the damage done to Israel but who can really blame them if they are *sick and tired* of being attacked on such a frequent basis? Rockets exploding into peoples home, bus bombings, etc.

If I were the israeli defence minister I would have sent in army troops from the beginning rather than bomb suspected buildings and other hideouts. I think bombing from the air is the cowards way and really it doesn't accomplish much since terrorists constantly change locations. If you want to do it right you gotta search every building and physically collect as much weaponry as possible.

To the OP, I'm from the u.s. and I hate to see genocide, and see so many supporting it.

I don't support genocide either but I am not using "genocide" as an excuse to hate the jews. Indeed if it was an actual genocide tens of thousands would be dead instead of a few hundred. Clearly this is not the case, is it?

[edit on 4-1-2009 by EarthCitizen07]

Israel has had chances to make two seprate states, to end conflict, but when it came down to it, they said no. I'm not saying palestine has been open arms. They certainly have not.

There have been times when the two did live in peace. So I can't agree that they are the strongest nation because they have to be.

This conflict will be endless. If israel is sick and tired of being attacked, so in responce it attacks, then you get palestine being sick and tired, so they attack...it will never stop.

Maybe genocide is the wrong word, but its bloodshed nontheless.

Also please don't think I hate jews. Everyone who knows me, knows that I hate racism.

Why do Palestinians like living in a place as opressive and dangerous as gaza? why not move to somewhere your children can run around without the threat of being used as a human sheild or an improvised explosive for Allah?

I don't hate Palestinians. On the other hand, I full realize what their "mission" is. The so-called Palestinians are a people who have been deliberately manipulated to be a thorn in Israel's side. They are the vanguard of Islam's Jihad against Israel.

They are as much a danger to my country (USA) as they are to Israel.

They destroyed Lebanon, they tried to destroy Jordan. They have not been given an opportunity to destroy Egypt.

HAMAS is the Palestianian division of the Muslim Brotherhood.. whose goal is worldwide imposition of Sharia law and domination by Muslims.

The MuslimBrotherhood is engaged in a cultural and legal transformation in the USA.

Therefore I recognize the Palestinians as the enemy that they are. I don't hate them. I don't act from my emotions, I act from reason.

Sermon delivered by Ahmad Bahr, acting speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, from Hamas, which aired on Sudan TV on April 13,
2007


America will be annihilated, while Islam will remain. The Muslims 'will be victorious, if you are believers.' Oh Muslims, I guarantee you that the power of Allah is greater than America, by whom many are blinded today. Some people are blinded by the power of America. We say to them that with the might of Allah, with the might of His Messenger, and with the power of Allah, we are stronger than America and Israel."

"The Palestinian woman bids her son farewell, and says to him: 'Son, go and don't be a coward. Go, and fight the Jews.' He bids her farewell and carries out a martyrdom operation. What did this Palestinian woman say when she was asked for her opinion, after the martyrdom of her son? She said: 'My son is my own flesh and blood. I love my son, but my love for Allah and His Messenger is greater than my love for my son.' Yes, this is the message of the Palestinian woman, who was over 70 years old - Fatima Al-Najjar. She was over 70 years old, but she blew herself up for the sake of Allah, bringing down many criminal Zionists."

"Oh Allah, vanquish the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, vanquish the Americans and their supporters. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them all, down to the very last one. Oh Allah, show them a day of darkness. Oh Allah, who sent down His Book, the mover of the clouds, who defeated the enemies of the Prophet - defeat the Jews and the Americans, and bring us victory over them."

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Let them eat grass.