Police set to step up hacking of home PCs

I wonder when the british people will grow a set and start a revolution in their country. Man o man they just bend over every time their government tries something new. Its no wonder the queen took all their firearms.

No problem to trace your IP, including the one behind any NAT router. Take a look at this site. You might be surprised.

www.auditmypc.com...

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I'm sorry if I sound off topic but may I ask what the hell happened in Europe? I used to envy you guys because you had leaders that were more caring of civil rights and leaders who made less arrogant decisions. I can't honestly believe that you're letting your governments do this to you. How can you stand for this? Here in the USA the Bush administration only looks at emails and phone calls, but, you're going to be letting your governments go one step further and looking at your personal stuff. I used to think Europe was cool. Now it's becoming too like the future that Orwellian imagined.

I am outraged as to why you're just sitting there and just taking it. Do you let your governments do whatever they want to you? Why don't you just let them walk in your home and take your stuff and inspect your personal belongings?

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"Here in the USA the Bush administration only looks at emails and phone calls, but, you're going to be letting your governments go one step further and looking at your personal stuff"

*I can't honestly believe that you are letting your government do this to you. How can you stand for this?

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We don't stand for it. You should see the crowd of anti-Bush people we have here in the USA complaining about Bush's programs that infringe on our national security. But the administration does nothing about it. The difference here is that it's just an administration thing really. Over there in your place in Europe you let all the European governments do it so now they can spy on you whenever they want to. I feel sorry for you guys since you let your governments stoop to the same level that our government did.

I found this interesting program (open source, free):

www.truecrypt.org...


Main Features:
Creates a virtual encrypted disk within a file and mounts it as a real disk.


Encrypts an entire partition or storage device such as USB flash drive or hard drive.


Encrypts a partition or drive where Windows is installed (pre-boot authentication).


Encryption is automatic, real-time (on-the-fly) and transparent.


Provides two levels of plausible deniability, in case an adversary forces you to reveal the password:

1) Hidden volume (steganography) and hidden operating system.

2) No TrueCrypt volume can be identified (volumes cannot be distinguished from random data).


Encryption algorithms: AES-256, Serpent, and Twofish. Mode of operation: XTS.


I guess this can help..

Wow, I am honestly gobsmacked. I cannot believe that the Home Office would do this. I believe that the UK is already the most surveyed country with all of the CCTV etc but this is taking it a gigantic leap further.
I am sure that they will spin it as a counter-terrorist measure or a way to capture images of a pedophile nature but it will soon be reaching the far corners of the Isles and infecting all of our machines.

Shocking

Unless vista which I never plan to use anyway has a back-door built in I honestly can't see the police being able to hack anyone this seems to me like something some bureaucrat has dreamt up.

Just in case though there are a couple of common sense but probably effective measures you can take and I would be a little surprised if most people didn't do some of them already.

1 Turn your wifi router not to broadcast a SSID if they can't see you they probably won't try to hack you.
It would also be in your best interests to use at least WPA encryption, block all unneeded ports and only allow your own PCs mac addresses to connect.

You could also use an open source firmware if your router supports it and your paranoid enough

2 Never open any email attachments from unknown sources and even be wary of known sources as email has always been incredibly easy to fake.

I guess it depends how they go about it really if they need physical access or have the ISP snoop I wouldn't personally class that as hacking and it isn't very hard to check your keyboard once in a while or install TOR.

I have to say I find this whole thing very unlikely to be honest at least in real world usage.

Wireless networks will always be vulnerable. Preventing your router from broadcasting your network's SSID can help, but only to a certain degree. There are numerous computer programs which will still detect 'invisible' networks.

With regards to the thread title, I find it totally unacceptable. If someone is suspected of committing 'cyber crime', fair enough - hack in. If necessary, confiscate their computer. "Routine" searches, however, without justification, are an invasion of our privacy.

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You guys in the UK need your own version of the 4th amendment. Your government really dislikes your civil liberties and wants to get rid of of whatever privacy you have right.

Not long ago in Toronto there was a conviction related to child pornography that was connected to the use of Limewire (the file trading application).

I thought at the time, reading about the case in the paper, that it was unusual in the sense that the criminal was apprehended, not on the basis of his web surfing habits, where he might have stumbled into an online sting operation being conducted by the police, but instead, by what strikes me as a greater degree of intrusion into what is going on with this person's computer.

It was never actually stated in the newspaper article just how this person was apprehended.

Limewire is a peculiar type of client in that it can take files or parts of files from numerous servers.

That fact made me wonder if simply running Limewire itself, might be enough probable cause for a judge to issue a warrant or for police to go ahead and do a cyber reconnaisance without a warrant.

I told myself years ago just to assume that when I am online, that I am under surveillance, but still the idea of widespread police surveillance of my computer use annoys me. Why? Just look at the history of your local police department. Have they ever had crooks, thugs, shysters, con men, perverts, weasels, blackmailers, etc. on your police force? I know they have on mine. It only takes one.

This is true. I see trouble over this and it will arrive in a flash, completely unplanned. More and more people are realising 'all that Alex Jones stuff' is coming true, right before their eyes...

The Convention on Modern Liberty, Feb 28 2009
www.modernliberty.net...

We Brits need to attend this, to finally get off our fat rears and speak up, then maybe we mosey on over to Downing Street and voice our displeasure AS WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DESPITE OFICER JACKBOOT AND HIS MP5 .

C'mon you armchair heroes, who is going?

I don't know if it would help me any , but because I have a few pc's and laptops , all the data I ever download is put onto these external hard drives ( they are the size of fat books , those ones ) and only applications as such sit on the actual internal drives . I suppose download history etc would be held on an internal drive thou . But if they come for me , I'd pull the external drive out and hide it when they are banging at the door . It's not like they'll say where's the external drive gone, they'll just take the pc.


If they do ask where these missing drives are at , I'll say they are USB flashdrives and lob a few of those at them to investigate .


When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your external hard drive
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting on death row

edit : PS I use this program 'truecrypt' for data on the external drives, is this good enough encryption ? It is not like I have anything at the moment that would be deemed illegal, but you know the way things are going .. orwellian and thought crime orientated , won't be long before it's a crime to hold opinions or information contrary to the state propaganda.

I suppose this too is also relevant :



news.bbc.co.uk...

I think this woman Jacqui Smith is behind a lot of this , there is something suspect and unpleasant about her .

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It isn't only Jackie Smith, it's the whole Nu Labour project that since it's inception has been doing every thing in it's power to destroy every thing this country ever stood for and watering down the British population with ever increasing numbers of immigrants so that when the time comes for them to force us further into Europe and remove Parliament/ give what little powers we have left to our European masters there will be no fight left in our people and nobody will stand in the way.

Its only fair they get to hack in to home user pc's, when you consider home users hack them hourly

It looks like our master have been keeping an eye on what the great unwashed have been doing for sometime.



BBC

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Thanks, that explains it better.

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Avast is Czech, Avira is German, AVG is Czech, BitDefender is Romanian, F-Prot is Icelandic, F-Secure is Finnish, NOD32 is Slovak, Panda is Spanish, etc.

And if I were you I would be more worried with "Big Company" than with "Big Brother". You probably are not aware how relatively easy it is for a company such as Google, with all those ADs on all those sites, to build a perfect map of where you have been today.

We don't want firearms, and that is rich coming from somebody in a nation that accuses one another of being unpatriotic if you mention 9-11 in the wrong vein. 'Man o man' you really need to reflect before commenting on other peoples homelands, you really do not have a leg to stand on.

Actually, that was pretty hilarious considering what side of the pond the submission is coming from.

Grow a brain.