Police set to step up hacking of home PCs

reply to post by verylowfrequency

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Yes, that is one of the problems with this system, the "honey pots".

While they get around the "honey pot" the real system could be preparing itself for a "visit".

This would be a very bad idea. Trust me. The Metropolitan Police Force Counter Terrorist Command does not have a sense of humour about this sort of thing.

The only sense of humour they displayed was when the payed me a visit and the officer in charge, in response to my question concerning how they had checked what to expect when calling on me replied,

"We shot the last person!"

Come on dude, 'public school apple'??? Seems like some one has a chip on their shoulder about they way they were bought up in comparison to others. Because your family couldnt afford to send you to public/private school does not make you more intelligent. To be fair, lower pupil teacher ratio's is obviously more successful than banging 120 kids in one room. Get over it! And do you realise that compliant means that it also gets all the ticks in the box for safety! Im sure there is some element of big brother in somethings, but dude, get a grip.

Where's Gary Mckinnon when you need him ?

What we need is some kind of program that locks up their modem so they can't hang up.... then the hunters will become the hunted... surely??

Well that's what Boris thinks anywho



Slugheads

I am going to suggest that each and every one of you learn how to use encryption standards such as the currest AES, Rijndael. By using a key longer then 256 bits, you are basically ensuring the saftey of your data due to the sheer impossible amount of computing power required to brute force such a large AES based cipher in any reasonable amount of time.

Encryption is extremely valuble in todays information age, and its something everyone should be using for e-mail, online transactions, and basically anything you do on your computer that you would like to keep private.

If everyone was to do this, even if they were to crack into every PC in London, they would find nothing but large amounts of block cipher text which is virtually useless to anyone without the key.

Stay one step ahead of the game, and you wont have a problem.

[edit on 1/4/2009 by deadline527]

ok, some facts. If you have an active, up-to-date firewall no one can get into your comp unless you allow it.

Secondly: Unless you accept a programme like back orrifice or PC anywhere, they cant get in...fact !

Why do you think they take your computer away when they arrest you, why? because its the only way you can get total access.

Thirdly...If someone is connected to you and are looking at the info on your drive you will know it, how?, because your comp will slow up, your virus checker will go crazy and any script that is running will identify itself.

Precautions....Dont use internet explorer to access the net, Opera has planty of alarm bells in place...Its free....get it !

This is fear-mongering in the extreme from our gov. Big brother is telling you he will do it, he hasnt mentioned that anyone with any comp skills will be able to stop them dead in their tracks.


respects

I agree with the notion of making them chase their tails.

I barely ever use over 50 gigs of hard drive space... so I've usually got over 950 free.

I think some encrypted pictures and movies of daffodils are in order... I'll make each video at least 2 hours in length.
I'll title each one something along the lines of "Underage sex" or "Plans to kill", (you get the idea).

I think it should be rather funny to know they're spending days on end decrypting pictures of peoples lawns, and watching the grass grow in the videos.


Morons.
Let's make em work for it.

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reply to post by johnsky

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Even encrypted I would be kinda wary of something called plans to kill !

All you need to do is be aware. There isnt a key-logger I know that wont be found by any active virus checker.

To be hacked, you need to be conned into being hacked. On-line transactions etc are unsafe and you should not be giving your info to anyone.

The only thing that should be sacred is your anonimity. Build it, protect it.

Respects

They don't have to arrest you...

As an another indication of the intellectual capacity we're up against when my machines were finally returned the tower side-panel had been torn off, I assume because some boffin in the lab couldn't work out how to slide a panel once the screws were removed.

In my opinion this may go some length to explain why the innocent sometimes end up dying.

BT can gain access to their own branded routers with or without your consent.


Any program can initiate an outbound connection regardless of what inbound protection you have on your router. It would be nice to think that a smart government would release a useful freeware tool with embedded connection software which could connect under the guise of "auto update"


So they have evidence for court.


Explained above not necessarily and also most users don't know how to protect their PCs from getting virii in the first place let alone how to determine if they have one.


Again it would most likely be delivered as a popular free app or OS embedded not through a web page as this does guarantee that you will go to any infected page. I always use IE, sure it has it's problems but properly configured it won't cause you any problems, I consider me=IE will stand a better chance than novice+opera


The majority of people who use computers are computer illiterate.

reply to post by captiva

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Well you're forgetting that anyone who uses those file sharing programs automatically is allowing people onto their systems. How else do you think the record companies knew what tracks people had so they could sue them. First they went on your system & saw what you had. They already had your IP casue that's were they got the list & all they did is ask the owner (service provider) of that IP who it was leased to during that period of time. They give them your name and you get a letter in the mail.

If the police actually start hacking into computers randomly just to look for something wrong, that's no different than breaking into your house to see if you doing anything wrong. It's a crime against humanity and as far as I'm concerned more dangerous than any terrorist has ever been and even though I don't have anything to hide I will fight it.

Whether that means putting out disinformation to counter their efforts or just teaching people how to encrypt their data and secure their systems it doesn't really matter.

Also, always remember when discarding old computers & media such as CD's & hard drives. Destroy them by breaking them with a sledge hammer, so the criminals can't use them to hurt you.

Oh yeah, and if they're going to plant trojans on your computer - all one has to do is get ahold of one of their trojans and watch what it does. Then send them some worms where their trojan pointed. Sort of bouncing the bomb back to where it came from.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by verylowfrequency]

reply to post by die_another_day

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I think it's best for you to repeat your post in this thread, seeing that your thread was started after this one, it will probably be closed.

This is fear mongering, paranoia on their part because the truth IS out there, and censorship all rolled into one nice little BLATANTLY out in the open mainstream news article...

This is BEYOND the twilight zone.

Yet another law that gives power of the state(s) over its people, when will they learn that its laws such as this that will be the cause of an underground revolution? Least we forget the American revolution? History repeats itself again!

I fear that the UK government has become slightly paranoid as they know they are going to be kicked out at the next election, when ever they decide we the little people can have it!

We already have working and proven laws that enable snooping of peoples private lives anyway, we don't need new laws we just need to streamline the bureaucracy involved in implementing them.

The government is as bad as the terrorists/criminals if they act out these powers!

reply to post by solidshot

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LOL, the internet is more than 'they' can bear. The PTB are being fed a bit of their own 'conscience'. They're still human, just a little misinformed of what's most important in their short, meaningless lives.

Take from your brethren, take from yourself. How much would one pay to gain their self respect?

It's priceless and as well as one's Conscience.

reply to post by captiva

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We do have to be conned into being hacked. But we're dealing with the police. And as we know whatever the Met does it's following in the footsteps of the law enforcement over in the states.

So very likely they wont be using some dodgy email to crack into your computer. It's most likely that your operating system shipped with the rootkit they're using to spy on us with.

I don't think they will bother using methods which might fail to infect 95% of computers (lets say for argument's sake that 5% use Linux) So I reckon we got fed this pill when we updated our Java, or Flash or our Firefox, or we got it shipped with Vista, or we got it in a service pack, or 100 other things we consider to be a legitimate program could have this scumware hidden in it. Anyone is available for a price. And like I said I don't believe that this is a UK led initiative. America has infinite cash and resources to waste on "counter-terrorism"

They dont need to search your PC when they can simply check your internet logs (ISP) !!!! Also intercepting email is easy so watch out !!! Emails and weblogs can be scanned by software looking for keywords like 'bomb making' etc then it can simply email an alert (and your IP) to an MI5 agents inbox ...

Use a proxy server and encryt your sensitive emails!