Police set to step up hacking of home PCs, page 2
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 02:23 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by verylowfrequency



Yes, that is one of the problems with this system, the "honey pots".

While they get around the "honey pot" the real system could be preparing itself for a "visit".


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 03:42 PM by captiva
reply to post by johnsky



Even encrypted I would be kinda wary of something called plans to kill !

All you need to do is be aware. There isnt a key-logger I know that wont be found by any active virus checker.

To be hacked, you need to be conned into being hacked. On-line transactions etc are unsafe and you should not be giving your info to anyone.

The only thing that should be sacred is your anonimity. Build it, protect it.

Respects


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 03:47 PM by spitefulgod
Originally posted by captiva
ok, some facts. If you have an active, up-to-date firewall no one can get into your comp unless you allow it.

BT can gain access to their own branded routers with or without your consent.

Secondly: Unless you accept a programme like back orrifice or PC anywhere, they cant get in...fact !

Any program can initiate an outbound connection regardless of what inbound protection you have on your router. It would be nice to think that a smart government would release a useful freeware tool with embedded connection software which could connect under the guise of "auto update"

Why do you think they take your computer away when they arrest you, why? because its the only way you can get total access.

So they have evidence for court.

Thirdly...If someone is connected to you and are looking at the info on your drive you will know it, how?, because your comp will slow up, your virus checker will go crazy and any script that is running will identify itself.

Explained above not necessarily and also most users don't know how to protect their PCs from getting virii in the first place let alone how to determine if they have one.

Precautions....Dont use internet explorer to access the net, Opera has planty of alarm bells in place...Its free....get it !

Again it would most likely be delivered as a popular free app or OS embedded not through a web page as this does guarantee that you will go to any infected page. I always use IE, sure it has it's problems but properly configured it won't cause you any problems, I consider me=IE will stand a better chance than novice+opera


This is fear-mongering in the extreme from our gov. Big brother is telling you he will do it, he hasnt mentioned that anyone with any comp skills will be able to stop them dead in their tracks.

The majority of people who use computers are computer illiterate.


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 03:52 PM by verylowfrequency
reply to post by captiva



Well you're forgetting that anyone who uses those file sharing programs automatically is allowing people onto their systems. How else do you think the record companies knew what tracks people had so they could sue them. First they went on your system & saw what you had. They already had your IP casue that's were they got the list & all they did is ask the owner (service provider) of that IP who it was leased to during that period of time. They give them your name and you get a letter in the mail.

If the police actually start hacking into computers randomly just to look for something wrong, that's no different than breaking into your house to see if you doing anything wrong. It's a crime against humanity and as far as I'm concerned more dangerous than any terrorist has ever been and even though I don't have anything to hide I will fight it.

Whether that means putting out disinformation to counter their efforts or just teaching people how to encrypt their data and secure their systems it doesn't really matter.

Also, always remember when discarding old computers & media such as CD's & hard drives. Destroy them by breaking them with a sledge hammer, so the criminals can't use them to hurt you.

Oh yeah, and if they're going to plant trojans on your computer - all one has to do is get ahold of one of their trojans and watch what it does. Then send them some worms where their trojan pointed. Sort of bouncing the bomb back to where it came from.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by verylowfrequency]


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:00 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by die_another_day



I think it's best for you to repeat your post in this thread, seeing that your thread was started after this one, it will probably be closed.



reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:38 PM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by solidshot



LOL, the internet is more than 'they' can bear. The PTB are being fed a bit of their own 'conscience'. They're still human, just a little misinformed of what's most important in their short, meaningless lives.

Take from your brethren, take from yourself. How much would one pay to gain their self respect?

It's priceless and as well as one's Conscience.


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:41 PM by Lazyninja
reply to post by captiva



We do have to be conned into being hacked. But we're dealing with the police. And as we know whatever the Met does it's following in the footsteps of the law enforcement over in the states.

So very likely they wont be using some dodgy email to crack into your computer. It's most likely that your operating system shipped with the rootkit they're using to spy on us with.

I don't think they will bother using methods which might fail to infect 95% of computers (lets say for argument's sake that 5% use Linux) So I reckon we got fed this pill when we updated our Java, or Flash or our Firefox, or we got it shipped with Vista, or we got it in a service pack, or 100 other things we consider to be a legitimate program could have this scumware hidden in it. Anyone is available for a price. And like I said I don't believe that this is a UK led initiative. America has infinite cash and resources to waste on "counter-terrorism"
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