Plucky NASA Rovers Complete Fifth Year on Mars, page 1
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Topic started on 4-1-2009 @ 08:27 AM by alyosha1981
When it comes to Mars missions, NASA's twin rovers Spirit and Opportunity seem to be the robots that never quit. The two plucky probes were each built for a 90-day romp across the Martian surface, a mission that began when Spirit bounced to a stop on the planet's expansive Gusev Crater five years ago today. Opportunity touched down on the other side of Mars a few weeks later and now - after half a decade - both rovers are still exploring the red planet after surviving more than 20 times their planned lifetime. "The American taxpayer was told three months for each rover was the prime mission plan," said Ed Weiler, NASA's associate administrator for science missions at the agency's Washington, D.C., headquarters, in a statement. "The twins have worked almost 20 times that long. That's an extraordinary return of investment in these challenging budgetary times." The rovers reportedly cost about $20 million to operate each year since their 2004 arrivals on Mars. Roving Mars Spirit set down at Gusev Crater on Jan. 3 at 11:35 p.m. EST (8:35 p.m. PST), where it overcame initial computer glitches and went on to scale nearby hills and brave the frigid Martian winter



year after year. Opportunity bounced to a stop inside what scientists later dubbed Eagle crater just after midnight (EST) Jan. 25 in an interplanetary hole-in-one on the vast Martian plains of Meridiani Planum. Since then, the rover has spotted a Martian meteorite, visited the heat shield cast off during its landing and explored ever larger craters as it makes it way toward Endeavour, a monster crater 14 miles (22 km) across.


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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 08:07 PM by RFBurns
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Not really. They are just very well designed and use the latest power generation and storage technology at the time they were built.

What I think is more the issue is that the environment on Mars might not be so harsh as NASA has been telling us. Even the most well insulated electrical storage battery or fuel cell will go bad under the huge variance of temperature changes that occur on the planet....unless those temperature changes are not as they say they are.

Going through 5 years of daytime temperatures that often reach up to 65*F during the Martian summers, and down to as low as -150*F at night, thats quite a jump in temperature shift, and over that long span of time. Plus the frequent heavy Martian dust and wind storms.

But those little 6 wheel Martian ATV's are pretty tough. It would be neat if they did last long enough for a manned mission to meet up with them and check them out, get a photo op and let them continue roaming the surface till they eventually die out.



Cheers!!!!


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 09:06 PM by alyosha1981
Although I am not surprised that the rovers "lasted" as long as they did i am however, slightly disappointed with the limited amount of travel completed on the martian surface. Not to down NASA or JPL as well as the engineers who worked on the projects, I just feel that there is much they are not telling us or showing us for that matter. My hopes are in line with many in that a manned mission will occur soon and the next steps for a mars colony will begin.

Posted by SLAYER69
You know whats sad? With all the gloom and doom now a days nobody really cares about good stuff anymore! I think this is awesome when something outlives it's original design specs like the Voyager space probes did and now the rovers I say atta boy NASA. Now release more Black Budget High Tech we can use it

I completely agree, it is time to introduce more black budget tech into the civilian sector! and why not? we are ready!

Posted by RFBurns
What I think is more the issue is that the environment on Mars might not be so harsh as NASA has been telling us. Even the most well insulated electrical storage battery or fuel cell will go bad under the huge variance of temperature changes that occur on the planet....unless those temperature changes are not as they say they are.


Exactly! so what else are they hiding from us? and why? I believe they know a great deal more then they are letting on to and for reasons unknown to the public they choose to keep these secrets behind closed doors, why?


reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 09:19 PM by RFBurns
Originally posted by alyosha1981
....so what else are they hiding from us? and why? I believe they know a great deal more then they are letting on to and for reasons unknown to the public they choose to keep these secrets behind closed doors, why?


It all goes back to the infamous Brookings report. That there would be a breakdown of civilization...that we cannot handle the truth.

If this was 1950 I would agree. But I think it goes much further than just a notion of we cannot handle the truth.

What it probably is..is that we would not "accept" the truth. I mean look at all the different ideologies and religions. Look at all the conflict going on right now at this very moment, and what for. Its all basically the old tradition of tribal warfare over religious beliefs and ideology. To insert something like "well mars is nice and warm and earth like and there is life up there and the human race's roots are intertwined with that life and our history is actually several hundreds of thousands of years than the 5 thousand you have been told all your life"....well would that be accepted?

I seriously think that the reasons for hiding the truth are not because we cant handle the truth, it is because the human race will not accept the truth.

Sad...but I think that is the "why". Imagine what kind of tribal conflict would occur about "well it was our God that made that life up there that links to our life and not your God"...etc etc.



Cheers!!!!

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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 11:25 PM by alyosha1981
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Good point, but I feel many would tend to disagree, the ideal of "accecptance" is IMO a relitive term when this subject comes up, weather or not the cultural beliefs of a group of people co inside with the "truth" is irrellevant , and more so the information would be "real" so one's willingness to accecpt is shawdoed by " well here it is do with it what you will"


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 12:54 AM by Phage
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The power subsystem on the rovers consists of solar panels feeding lithium ion batteries. During the day the batteries are not needed, the solar panels provide all the power, excess power is used to charge the the batteries. The batteries have a specified operating temperature range of -20C to 30C. The rovers carry RHUs (radioisotope heater units) to keep the battery and electronics from getting too cold at night. During the day a passive thermal switch is used to keep the battery temperature down.

Spirit, being the farthest from the equator, has experienced the widest temperature range. From a low of -130F to a high of 95F.

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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 01:08 AM by TH3ON3
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Man you all are getting into some interesting things on this thread.

I just watched the movie The Day The Earth Stood Still and I have to say the writer Arthur Tofte had to be either on the inside of the Majestic 12, or someone who knew about all of the supposedly secret info told him about it.

I really believe they brought him in after the recovery because he had already been writing about space aliens and robots and such way before we recovered the downed vessel.

I'm going to write a thread possibly in a few days explaining my theory. I know that man was on the inside for sure, and I will prove it.



reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 01:12 AM by SLAYER69
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Hey Phage Deja Vu?


TH3ON3
I'm looking forward to your thread.

Also check out my post here
Definitive Back Engineered Alien Technology Research thread


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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 06:37 PM by SLAYER69
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Well it could be the reason they wont have a full disclosure in the foreseeable future on anything regarding possible visitors to earth in our past.



reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 07:07 PM by alyosha1981
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I agree SLAYER, this theory, IMO is one of the rare speculations that seem to hold weight. We all agree that something is amiss and that they hide it from our eyes, this really could be why it just makes sense.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 07:18 PM by RFBurns
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Eventually the cycle has to break, otherwise the lie exposure and blame game will be even greater and that much more difficult for them to explain and deal with.

Thats why way back in the 70's, there were efforts to get at the truth and to get government to start the process of "wiping the slate clean".

But as I pointed out, humanity as a whole isnt ready for it, psycologically and socially. There are way too many primative habbits that must be overcome first before mankind can claim their place in the universal community.

Rest assured, if there are in fact civilizations out there that have advanced themselves socially to be beyond our primative ways, there is no way they will want us out there among them bringing our war like tribal traits with us. Those that are in the know, also know this.

In the meantime, its "drip, drip" disclosure, one microbe at a time, one rock at a time, one fossil at a time.



Cheers!!!!
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