Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness

Unless you are a Hamas terrorist, it did not mean you, if you are a Hamas terrorist, it is directed directly at you.

The problem is those who support terrorists is not an insult, it is very clear to see some peoples anti-israeli/jewish bias in their posts.

Hamas are terrorists, those who support them would, naturally be terrorist supporters.

reply to post by GamerGal

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212 664 4249

thats the number for TODAY on MSNBC

they haven`t heard of what your talking about and MSNBC , according to you were the ones to show it.

IF MSNBC don`t know about the subject you mentioned - a report between 4pm and 5pm on saturday about palestinians shooting children in the knees and throwing them under tanks

then you are a LIAR.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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We are all terrorists to somebody. It simply depends on which side you have chosen.

Im sure many in Iraq and Afghanistan would claim Brits and Americans are terrorists.


Lets go back to the IRA, terrorists...pure and simple, bombs killing innocent people. Many Americans not only supported their cause, but helped supply them with money. Yet to ireland, us Brits were the terrorists...

Just to add, I don't mean to sound as if all Irish people saw us as terrorists and supported the IRA, just as not all British people supported the Brits in the troubles. That was not my intention, sorry if I came across that way

So yes, you can call me a terrorist supporter, for standing by innocent Palestinians, but I can do the same to you.

War is not black and white, either side can be fairly defended in their actions...


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Uhm, I don't believe I ever said they didn't.



Your first post.


Which still doesn't match the standards you have been holding other persons to.

Shall we go back to what I said in the previous post:



Now, look back at your first post on this thread, and look at what you said, pretend that it said 'On televison now! The Gazans have resorted to eating grass onset by starvation because of the Israelis and Egyptians closing down the boarders and refusing to let humanitarian aid come through.'

How would/did you react to that?

I'm guessing the same way I reacted to your claim, based on what i've read so far.

reply to post by Harlequin

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Well, again, quote me where I say there is video. Until then you're misquoting, putting words in my mouth, and dodging the issue.

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My appologies for mis-interpreting your post.

Edit: Not a one liner.

Peace.


[edit on 1/5/2009 by Uniceft17]

reply to post by GamerGal

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you claimed this happened on MSNBC tv news

MSNBC deny any knowledge of this - i have supplied the number if anyone wants to check themselves

the news station you claimed to have reported this do not know anything about it

and yet you carry on

YOU ARE A LIAR

reply to post by Harlequin

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Whilst I am generally on your side on this issue, how many times did you call? Human error could play a part in it, ideally you would have spoken to 2 different people and received the same outcome.

reply to post by Harlequin

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You still can't quote me as saying there was a video. Because I never did. It was a guy on the phone telling them what they saw. For about ten minutes he was on then they went to the Head of the Palestinian Mission to the UN. So how am I lying? I said what I saw/heard. You then demand I show the "video" that I said existed. I reply I never said there was a video, only a guy on a phone, and you still claim there is a video.

reply to post by GamerGal

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MSNBC deny this occured not now or ever.

you keep saying it did and saw it on MSNBC

stop being a LIAR.

edit:

i asked for PROOF , you said there wasn`t any - i phoned MSNBC who deny any such report happened

you then babble on about a video.

you claimed you saw it on MSNBC - they deny it happened when phoned - the number is allready supplied for anyone to call.

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Surely if this happened then more people saw it than just GG?
Where is the outrage?

Hairy arsed? That's not very nice. Can we keep the argument to the conflict and not involving personal attacks?

Hamas moves on Fatah 'collaborators'
www.jpost.com...





Any of this sound familiar? Relatives of Fatah members being shot in the knees and others killed.

Let's stop about this okay? 20 freaking pages have been wasted on someone who purposefully derailed this thread. It's enough now. This thread is about the Israeli operation in Gaza and not about anything else.

reply to post by Mdv2

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So many people are condemning Israel for taking this action! Just as they did a few years ago with Lebanon.

Do you all not know that the Palistinians have been lobbing shells into Israel everyday for years?? Just as was happening from Lebanon when that broke out!

Does Israel not have the right to defend itself? How many bomb's would have to go off in your front yard before you took some action?

Granted the Government of Israel are an unrighteous group who are not presently following their Elohim (god). But what government in this wicked world is? We (America) certainly are not following our (god)!! We have kicked him out! Out of our schools and out of the affairs of the state!

We are no more 'righteous' than Israel is! We are doing the same thing to the people of Iraq and Afganistan and very soon (probably) in Iran!

We are turning a blind eye to the 'true Genocide" that is happening in Africa! What Israel is doing is NOT genocide!!! They are simply defending themselves and taking out the perpetrators of the offenses of a faction of Palistinians. It is the Palistinians who put the civilians in the proximity of those who know they will be targeted, in a effort to 1) attempt to keep from being attacked. and 2) so that if and when they are attacked Israel will be made to look like the bad guys.

If I were some of you, I would be very careful about condemning and 'cursing' Yisra'el. Yahuah said that He would Bless those who Bless Yisra'el and Curse those who Curse Yisra'el.

That still goes today, and to think not...
You have been deceived!!

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Stop What?

Pointing out clear violations of ATS social decorum? Yes this thread is about the operation in Gaza, but that gives no one the right or excuse to lob personal attacks or insults.

Its already bad enough with people using the word Zionist as if it were a derogatory epithet.

There are news stories coming from Fatah itself showing that Hamas are knee capping people and killing relatives of Fatah members. I don't know how that is a derailment.

reply to post by MikeboydUS

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Hamas ran Fatah out of Gaza , lined them up against a wall and machine gunned them - the day this happened Egypt shut the border and hezbollah walked away from gaza - which shows how much `real` support hamas actually has

so dragging out fatah memebers and killing them doesn`t surprise me - what really pisses me off is that BOTH sides in the conflict are to blame not just hamas - but some people dont see that - and that does get my goat somewhat.

israel arn`t whiter than white - and hamas cannot be excused for being anything than asshats - but its a case of irresistible force meats immoveable object , with (for want of a less agressively descriptive word) fanatics at the helm of each faction

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That's why Hamas has to go. Maybe the Israelis could get the Arab League to help remove Hamas from Gaza, maybe bring in Egyptian forces from the south. The quicker they help, the faster Fatah can regain control of Gaza.

The only alternative I see to that is a UN/NATO security force in Gaza.

reply to post by MikeboydUS

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I agree with you, but if you post this again, another 20 pages will be added with exactly the same discussion. Time to take a deep breath, and consider how we post...

Therefore, I said could you stop with mentioning what has been discussed before.

And Merlinfields, you should seriously read the link I've posted in this message.

reply to post by MikeboydUS

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the UN tried in 2006 but got aircraft bombed out of the place `accidently` - as i said , with fanatics and zealots in charge of both sides peace is but a dream.