Jett Travolta. Death by Scientology?, page 3
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 08:05 PM by Terapin
reply to post by benoni



There is no evidence yet that Jett had a seizure, but it is well established that he had seizures in the past, and that they were an ongoing issue in his health care. What kind of medical treatment was being provided to Jett for his health problems?

We do know that John and Kelly do not believe in Autism. We do know that they do not believe in much of modern pharmacology and specifically medications that deal with neurological disorders. Sadly, that is against their cult belief system.

The cult of Scientology is against any form of medication for psychiatric or neurological disorders. The Cult is so wacky that they blame psychiatry for the Holocaust, and when Brook Shields was suffering from a bit of post-partum depression, and sought out psychiatric therapy, Tom Cruise on behalf of scientology, viciously attacked her publicly for that choice. That is the nature of the cult. Cult brainwashing=good, modern medicine=bad.

The cult of scientology specifically states that all mental illness is simply a problem of a confused body Thetan (Alien Ghost.) The cult believes that you can cure most anything with vitamin "purification" packs. Because they have been dispensing these "purification" packs for all sorts of problems from depression to cancer, the cult is being taken to court by the UK government for operating an illegal pharmacy.

Given that both John and Kelly are hard core members of the Cult, and given that they do not believe in Autism, and medication for seizures, I wonder what type of health care Jetts nannies and handlers were giving him. I wonder if Jett was receiving proper medical care, and had therapists instead of nannies, how much better his life might have been.


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 09:12 PM by mmiichael
reply to post by Terapin




Thanks for your thoughtful informed comments on Scientology. It restores a level of faith to know there are thinking people out there and that a few of them are around here.

Unlike so any oults and pseudoreligions, Scientology is so counterintuitive in it's appeal, repugnant, and transparently whacko, I am in constant awe they appeal to more than the inevitable lost souls out there just seeking any kind of message.

I gather among their strengths are charismatic personnel and recruiting.


Mike F


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 10:45 PM by Terapin
reply to post by sensfan



Sensfan, I respect your position, but sadly Scientology is not just like any other religion. Do other religions promote the disconnection of family? Scientology does. If you join the Cult, and all of your family members do not, you are required to disconnect from them. They then are given the title of Suppressive Person, or SP, and you are forbidden to have any contact with them ever again. Most religions I know have very strong family values and promote togetherness, not separation.

You can go to a Church or Mosque and listen to a sermon for free, or perhaps you can offer a small donation. Scientology requires that you pay, and pay, and pay, and the second you stop paying, they want nothing to do with you. Simply getting to OT-3 in the Cult, a level of membership, costs over $350,000 US.

Scientology is well known for denying proper medical treatment to it's members to the point that people have died. Lisa McPherson is just one example. The more you look at the cult, the more dangerous you will find it to be.

You can even ask the children of cult members, children who were born into the cult and had no choice in the matter, how bad their lives were. Ex Scientology kids The niece of the cults leader escaped from a life of misery within the organization and has spoken a great deal about how bad the life of children within the cult is.

I agree, that to a certain extent, people should be free to practice what ever belief system they choose. If people want to believe that they are alien ghosts, and that galactic lord Xenu is the supreme being, then that is perfectly fine. The trouble I have with Scientology is not Xenu, it is the denial of basic human rights. Didn't Jett Travolta have the right to proper medical care?


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 11:46 PM by itchy_tartan_blanket
what a shower of #es most of you are...*lights cigarette*...JT and KP have just lost their son, through AS-YET-UNKNOWN causes, yet everyone has jumped up to slate Scientology...their religion and faith...Personally I think it's not a religion but a cult and a very powerful one at that but that doesn't give ANYONE the right to come on and make ridiculous claims about their parenting skills when the autopsy hasn't been done yet...even then you wouldn't believe it...

Is it hindu's that can't receive medical treatments of sorts and Jehovah's Witnesses can't either? while we read stories about people pointlessly dying for their religious beliefs, it is their life...there is a lot of speculation as to the cause and a lot of Chinese whispers about quotes made by JT and KP as well as lack of knowledge and statistics on Kawasaki disease...the boy is dead and if it was in any way caused by a parental decision direct or indirect, which i believe was made with his best interests at heart, then they will be two very upset people to say the least...my heart goes out to any parent who loses a child...

To be honest i think this is really low and pathetic and...in fact you should be ashamed of yourselves!! Aye Scientology is one fcuk-ed up organisation with a very suspect agenda and methods of recruitment and many horror stories but you really have to understand the process of advancement within th Church of Scientology...most members only friends and family are members, have invested thousands and thousands of Dollars in it and are dependant on it cos hey, cults etc look after the brothers and sisters ;-) and to go against the CoS they would lose everything and be alienated so its comfier to remain as opposed to having nothing and noone...

It's easier to ridicule something when we dont understand it, especially with all the band wagons galloping around....

If you wanna bash Scientology then visit the other threads and dont use this families public loss and make it more difficult for them than it already is...so much for truth with your half arsed opinions, scraped together with half arsed research...have you any idea how heartless this is? imagine if you made a decision based on what you believed was the right thing and you lost a loved one?........*flicks cigarette at the idiots*........


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 01:24 AM by ExamineAllViews
reply to post by Terapin



Hmm, why does this seem to me like blatant opportunism? Btw, I am not a Scientologist (in fact I am on prescribed medication myself), but what right do you have to judge John Travolta and his personal religious and medical beliefs? You then try to use your ideologies to attribute blame on the whole Scientology community for Travolta's son's death.

John Travolta and his wife are free to raise THEIR son in a manner that they consider appropriate (of course, as long as they do so in accordance with the legal system). Therefore, YOUR political views on this matter are technically invalid.

Best wishes to the family and friends of Jett Travolta.


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 02:56 AM by alienj
reply to post by uninspired



When your so rich you have everything and your still not happy you have to look for any and everything to make you feel better. Cults are right there to like wolves at the barn door. My heart goes out to them.
I want to send my condolences to the Travolat family. I have no doubt they loved thier child as much as any other family does. Lets remember at this time no matter what a father has lost a child, a mother has lost her son and it has to be a very dark day for them. We as humans should do our best not to make it any harder and realize we are not the judge and jury for anything besides our own lives.
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