For All Those Opposed To Questioning Obama's Eligibility

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Is this what you'd like to see happen? It WILL happen this way if it's not taken care of BEFORE his inauguration. Lawyers are just waiting for there to be a felony case that they can make a name of themselves with.

I really wish I hadn't started looking at this in the first place. I'm disgusted that it's gotten this far and every one of you should be too. When the POTUS can't ACT as POTUS because of fear, that's when he becomes a lame duck. If inaugurated before this is cleared up, we will have elected a lame duck!

Ok now I know you're out there... I've seen you...... where are you now???

Sorry. I have a headache today and can't seem to get through your source.

Is WHAT what we would like to happen?

(I am not opposed to questioning Obama's eligibility, but I am curious about what this is about.) Would you mind reducing it to a few sentences? Thank you.

Since only 170 Electoral Votes have been received for Obama so far and the Electoral votes are transmitted to Congress tomorrow. It may be a mute issue

Benevolent Heretic,

Sure. Basically, the fact that Obama won't be able to sign any legislation into law without the fear that the very first time someone breaks that law, he and everyone else will be forced to PROVE his eligibility so that the courts can enforce the law.

Snipets for your aching head...





Basically, the invalidity of the law is the basis for the defense of the person.







I know that wasn't as short as you probably need but it's the best I could do...

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Actually, now I think it's up to 184 (if my calculator was working right).

Thank you very much, Iamonlyhuman. Very thoughtful of you.



In that case, I'll just say it's very silly. If someone breaks the law because they don't think Obama has the authority to make a law or questions his authority to make such laws, they are going to be treated the same as anyone who breaks the law. It's just silly.

No... What I'm saying is that we don't want criminals getting off because Obama is ineligible to sign laws (and again I'm not saying that he is ineligible but it sure does look like it). Anyway, my point is that we'll know as soon as Congress enacts the first law and someone breaks it because that's going to be their defense and he or the State of Hawaii will then HAVE to PROVE his eligibility in a court of law.

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Obama is your president and your problem, deal with it.

Illegal acts of the United State have never stopped it from proceeding along it merry way. Even if Obama was born in Hawaii - he still is not a Natural Born Citizen. Hawaii is not a legal state of the United States! See the following website: whatreallyhappened.com...   In 1999, the United Nations confirmed that the plebiscite vote that led to Hawaii’s statehood was in violation of article 73 of the United Nations’ charter. The Hawaii statehood vote, under treaty then in effect, was illegal and non-binding. On November 23, 1993, President Clinton signed United States Public Law 103-150, which not only acknowledged the illegal actions committed by the United States in the overthrow of the legitimate government of Hawaii, but also that the Hawaiian people never surrendered their sovereignty. The latter is the most important part of United States Public Law 103-150 for it makes it quite clear that the Hawaiian people never legally ceased to be a sovereign separate independent nation. There is no argument that can change that fact. United States Public Law 103-150, despite its polite language, is an official admission that the government of the United States illegally occupies the territory of the Hawaiian people. So even if Obama was born in Hawaii - he was not born in a legal U.S. State and is not a NBC.

So one illegal act spawns another illegal act and so on.

If I'm understanding the OP ... that's a big IF ...

Obama will be ineffective as POTUS because people question if he has the authority and until he proves he has the authority by showing his REAL AUTHENTIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE then he will be a lame duck president?

Something like that?

I hadn't thought of that. After some consideration on this I can understand why you think that but I don't see it happening. People who think that and act upon it will be a small minority and will be pushed aside. They won't be taken seriously.

Pushed aside and not taken seriously until they become useful tools for some politician to use to further his/her own agenda somehow.

It would be best for Obama to put this to rest.
It would be so easy for him to do.
He should do it and then eveyrone can move on.

Criminals won't get off any more than they get off now.
Obama is not ineligible to sign laws. It only looks like that to those who are ignoring the facts.



When someone breaks the law and tries to use the defense that Obama is ineligible to be president, they will be laughed out of court. No one is going to make Obama further prove his eligibility just because some nut job says he was born in Kenya or isn't a natural-born citizen. Obama has already proven his eligibility.

The relatively small group of people who refuse to believe the facts before them are not going to be catered to. That's just a further delusion.

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I agree with you to a point, about them being "pushed aside" or even laughed out of court.. but there is always the chance that just one "aspiring" young lawyer or congressman might actually try this. and create some sort of "scandle"..

But I hope that you are correct in that this is truly a non issue.. As has been stated before Obama has been "elected"(I know, not all the electoral votes are officialy in yet) And like it or not, He, as it stands now( for all practical intents and purposes) is our President..

God help the man.. I hope he is able to meet at least some of the expectations that have been heaped upon him...

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I have no doubt someone will try it. As demonstrate by the many frivolous lawsuits in the works, people are going to try all they can to get what they want. Some people just cannot accept reality.

As far as the electoral votes not being in yet, most states that voted for McCain aren't listed on that website either. I'm guessing that the website just hasn't been updated.

Some idiot has sued the Inauguration for the past 3 elections to get the prayers and "so help me, God" removed from the oath. He's doing it again this year. Some people just want what they want, and will make a big deal about it, even if they're wrong. What can I say? It's a free country.

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I understand and agree with you.. and as far as your comment about a "free country" for some reason sitting here on a "conspiracy theory website" the Irony of that statement made me laugh...

I am not articulate enough to explain the humor I saw in it.. but hopefully you understand what I am trying to say...

Anyway I hope that your headache has subsided...

I did see the humor as I typed it. So yeah, I get it. But as long as we are free to sue the government because of some conspiracy backed by no facts, then I'm gonna say we're still relatively free. I did get the humor though.

My headache is gone, thank you. Seems Pizza Hut has started putting MSG in their sauce and it gave me a migraine.

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Seems Pizza Hut has started putting MSG in their sauce and it gave me a migraine.



I know this is off topic, but that explains alot, I noticed something was up with pizza hut, whole family has been having "digestion" probs after eating thier pizzas and stuff, just never put it together is all...thought maybe a "localized" prob...

OOH, maybe a topic for starting another thread......

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