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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 05:30 AM by AlwaysQuestion
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 06:22 AM by geek101
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So sad, seeing these pictures. Both Hamas and the Israeli government need to stop for a while and consider the damage they are doing to innocent
people. Yes it's war, as some people on here are fond of pointing out, but that doesn't make it any less sad.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 09:07 AM by alyosha1981
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Originally posted by geek101
reply to post by AlwaysQuestion
So sad, seeing these pictures. Both Hamas and the Israeli government need to stop for a while and consider the damage they are doing to innocent
people. Yes it's war, as some people on here are fond of pointing out, but that doesn't make it any less sad.
Well said! it has been pointed out several times that is is too easy for some to "armchair quarterback" these events as they are safe and secure in
their homes or workplaces. It's hard to truly imagine the way either side really feels, and both have their points but the loss of life should not be
taken lightly weather by fighter or writer. I have never had the misfortune of being witness to war and for that I an grateful. We as a species have
proven to violent and unrelenting in our attempts in solving misgivings, I doubt we will live to see the days of a war free world.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 09:55 AM by Harlequin
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star to you - that link at the bottom , which ive noticed they add to - shows the fighting from both sides - whats sad is im sure that some people
will merely claim that alot of it is `pallywood`
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 11:14 AM by shauny
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Its a sign of the times, when on Christmas day, the area Jesus was born, the people are killing each other.
Our world is all wrong.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 11:36 AM by Harlequin
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except that neither side acknowledge the Christian Jesus - for muslims he is nothing more than a name and blasfemy - and for jews he has n`t been born
yet an why are we worshipping a false god
so whilst for the Christians and west its the celebration of the birth of Christ
for the midle east its another day
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:18 PM by douglas2k4
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Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by shauny
except that neither side acknowledge the Christian Jesus - for muslims he is nothing more than a name and blasfemy - and for jews he has n`t been born
yet an why are we worshipping a false god
so whilst for the Christians and west its the celebration of the birth of Christ
for the midle east its another day
What are you talking about? Muslim's revere Jesus as one of God's greatest prophets, and they don't see him as "just a name". As for the Jews,
they acknowledged he had existed, but that he wasn't the Messiah.
And you're assuming all people in the ME are Muslim or Jewish. Even though they might be the majority, they certainly aren't the entirety.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:23 AM by Armin
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What a bunch of lies, the people of Gaza have no weapons to even protect themselves. Why on God's Earth would they hide weapons in a Holy Mosque, and
not use their weapons to protect themselves? Attacking Holy Mosque's will only lead to a big "Holy War", it's a hate crime and it only sends a bad
message across all Muslim nations about Israel's true intention on the attack of Gaza. May God help those innocent people from being killed just
because of some cowardly air strike attacks from Israel. Thousands of innocent women and children are being injured, or killed because they did
nothing, but hide from air strike attacks. The Media is not reporting the truth, they're saying they can't confirm those nubers because supposedly
the international news media isn't allowed into Gaza, which is a bunch of lies as well.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:29 AM by alyosha1981
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Originally posted by Armin
What a bunch of lies, the people of Gaza have no weapons to even protect themselves. Why on God's Earth would they hide weapons in a Holy Mosque, and
not use their weapons to protect themselves? Attacking Holy Mosque's will only lead to a big "Holy War", it's a hate crime and it only sends a bad
message across all Muslim nations about Israel's true intention on the attack of Gaza. May God help those innocent people from being killed just
because of some cowardly air strike attacks from Israel. Thousands of innocent women and children are being injured, or killed because they did
nothing, but hide from air strike attacks. The Media is not reporting the truth, they're saying they can't confirm those nubers because supposedly
the international news media isn't allowed into Gaza, which is a bunch of lies as well.
Your right this screams hate crime, for the love of god why would the Hamas store weapons in the mosque? that is just the MSM propaganda in favor of
Israel.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 04:57 AM by Armin
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 08:32 AM by Alienmojo
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Originally posted by alyosha1981
Ok so calling the targets before actually bombing them? did I hear this right? Tell me that this is not a tactic that is regularly used by the
Israelis, what if nobody answers? their in the bath or something like that.What if there on the other line, WTF? and then Israel saying that the
mosque was being used to store weapons thats a good excusse.
news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Actually it is a good excuse, we are talking about an ememy that uses children as human shields....sorry, I don't feel sorry for them. As long as
they keep up their terrorist activities. I've never understood why Isreael keeps wanting to make peace and give them land. And yes, I know about the
living conditions. I've spent time in Israel and sometimes its hard to draw a line on just who the bad guys are here, or even if there are any. I
don't agree with destroying the homes of suspected terrorists, although I understand it. If they make the repercusions bad enough for the suicide
bomber's family they are hoping to stop him... that is where Israel doesn't understand their enemy well enough. So I think they should stop that
practice. As far as keeping them oppressed and stuff...well what else can they do? If they make the place too open they are subject to attack. The
only reason that I side with Israel at all on this one is because the suicide bombers don't care who they kill, love using their own people as
shields, and will even place bodies for photographers. They have no honor.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 08:35 AM by Alienmojo
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Originally posted by alyosha1981
Originally posted by Armin
Your right this screams hate crime, for the love of god why would the Hamas store weapons in the mosque? that is just the MSM propaganda in favor of
Israel.
Actually its a common practice to store weapons in holy places and hospitals where there is less chance of them being destroyed. Remember folks...
lots of propaganda on both sides of this one.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 08:42 AM by Alienmojo
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Originally posted by Armin
reply to post by AlwaysQuestion
Star & Thanks for the lnk, those pictures confirm of what I was saying about innocent women and childen are getting injured and killed for
NOTHING!!!!! These innocent people are not part of the Hammas group, they're not terrorists, they're not soldiers, just innocent human
beings who deserve the right to live!
And these are just some pictures of innocent Palestinian people being injured or killed because of nothing they did, but born Muslim. There is
thousands just like these, and the number keeps growing day by day. This is a hate crime that's unhuman anymore, they are attacking anything that
moves.
I guess we could throw on some pics of all the innocent people that have been killed by suicide bombers too. For nothing? Obviously there is
something or the two sides would not be fighting. When you hide weapons among civilians and use them as human shields people are gonna die. The
Palestinian's are king of the propaganda photo. They use the media as well as they kill innocent people on buses and in markets.
As much as it sounds like I'm taking Israel's side here, I'm not. Both are guilty of atrocities to each other. Frankly, its getting old. I just
hope they can figure a way out of this before one side exterminates the other.
So blame Israel if you want to, but in my eyes the Palestinians are as much to blame. War is an awful thing... especially guerilla warfare.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:21 AM by Anonymous ATS
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However much the Zionists in Israel would love to tell you otherwise, the true Semites are in fact the Palestinians while many of the Israelis are not
(as many of them don't descend from the local inhabitants but from Russia and other countries).
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 10:29 AM by DantesLost
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Lets hope the Israeli troops can be more desscerning in their strikes then the bombs that kill civilians.
I wouldn't count on it.They haven't in the past.
geek101
I think you should use this link of yours palestinian.ning.com... to start a thread.
Too many people don't know about how little damage is actually done by Hamas.It'll probably get ignored,like any Israel thread that shows the
truth,but I still think its worth doing.
Obviously the suicide bomber attacks are more destructive,and are equallt deplorable,but it is the rockets that have been used by Israel as an excuse
to attack Gaza.
[edit on 4-1-2009 by DantesLost]
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 11:47 AM by computerwiz32
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lol, wow... you really believe that he stashed his dirty work in a masque. .
He doesn't. They stash them i hideouts not in a masque. I am sure they hit the masque cause they knew he hangs out there.
Now does it give them the right to do such a thing??? I mean do you see America going around and finding every bank robber where they hanged out and
bombing each building.
omg I remeber he was in target onthe night of oct,5th 2007... ring ring hello this is target how may we help you.... US airforce will say" you need
to leave we are going to blow you guys up cause you had a bank robber in your store on the night of oct 5th 2007" Click...
I mean They are blowing up buildings that they know that dude hangs out at.
Now what is this about that truce being broken??? I heard hamas said that they will not agree to a one way truce. I hear Israel asked they they will
have a truce if only hamas release a hostage they have then they will have a truce.
If that is true then why should hamas go for that??? it's kinda like saying ok I will not kill you but just give me the gun. you give the guy the gun
and he shoots you.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 11:56 AM by computerwiz32
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Dude. so let me get this straight. Israel invades a country to get criminals????
hmmm... why the invasion??? you can only invade a country if the country themselves done something to that country.
So it's like a criminal in another country that shoots rockets to Israel gives Israel the right to go in that country and blow it to
smithereens??
I seriously hate Israel. It's not because of this conflict it's more because what they said and reacted to Iran.
Also we the U.S gives a blank check to Israel upon request. So why fund Israel???
I know this for a fact because my dads friend was in the U.S gov I forgot what branch. He was a office of accounting. He asked his boss why there was
a blank check going to Israel. His boss replied saying you never want to know and hopefully you will never ask that question again.
The next day he was transferred to another building on a distance from where he lived.
So I know for a face we are sending blank checks to Israel. You will only know this if your an accountant for the U.S gov.
TO me I see Israel as bullies. They made alot of statements. What happened to the green light to attack Iran???
I also heard Iran is going to send warships into gaza??? is that true?? will this turn out into a world war 3???
I mean all over the world are protesters..
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