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Originally posted by VinceP1974
The Bible predicted that the Jews would under an exile after teh Babylonian exile, And that this exile would be extraordinary long.
So you see, I did test the Bible.. everything God has said about the Jewish return from their long exile is happening.
All that's to happen next is for Israel to lose all its allies (We're their one), Israel to seek peace with Antichrist, and then the Muslim attack on the world.
And you don't need to be religious to know the Muslims are on a global mission of conquest.
The Atheists today sure are uppity. They're lucky they were born in a Christian-influenced society. It was the Protestant values of individual conscience that led to secularization of society.
Originally posted by St Udio
from OP:
THe 6th empire at the time of John is Rome. We're told the 7th Empire does not yet exist at that time. Every Empire conquers the previous one and controls Israel.
The next empire to seize Jerusalem and destroy the preceding Empire.... The Islamic Caliphate
the main contention i have with this reasoning is that
we are told that the last kingdom will be unlike the others, it will be diverse ...
having a desert religious/caliphate sure is not an uncommon enemy-antigonist kingdom to the Hebrew/Israelites/Jews...
A coalition of the willing, led by an American-Israeli-Anglo confederation,
would also fit the bill as the 'feet & toes' of Daniels statue...
rather than a inherently conflicted Caliphate which will surely self destruct
because of the infighting between the Suni-&-Shia sects
we have been warned that even the elect would be deceived...,
what better deception than the loudest sponser for humanitarianism, freedom, liberty...
would continue to be undiscerned as -> the Beast of Revelations
who does crush and trample nations and peoples over the world.
(the USA has troops stationed at more than 117 nations over the globe)
cheers in 2009
Originally posted by antonia
Can you prove those assertions were made before that event occurred?
No, you didn't prove anything. You are once again quoting from source material which has been edited numerous times. You cannot prove it's true.
This isn't about helping anyone for you. That's what's so disgusting about it. It's about spreading fear of Muslims and their religion. To lump all Muslims together and proclaim they are on some mission to convert the entire planet is xenophobia at it's highest. Furthermore what makes Christians any different? Methodology, that's all.
'm not an atheist. Calling atheistic people "uppity" is so very insulting. I'm sorry, it's "uppity" to question beliefs?
Originally posted by mrmanuva
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[edit on 2-1-2009 by mrmanuva]
Originally posted by whiteraven
Also, Islam's god , Allah, is really the crescent moon god of war.
When Abram lived in Ur, Ur's chief god, Sin, was the Babylonian chief god of the crescent moon. Allah is Satan.
Originally posted by mrmanuva
It is idotic, and frankly ridiculous theories, such as this, that have caused much of the current conflicts in the world.
Originally posted by geek101
reply to post by dooper
Ok, i can see this going nowhere fast. So all i would like to know from you is this;
If Allah is the moon god, show me in the Quran where it says, worship the moon. You can, of course, ignore those verses in which Allah says that the moon is nothing but a sign from Him.
Please...back up your "facts" or i will assume (as i am already) that you are completely ignorant of Islam and only say things that serve your purpose.
Originally posted by karl 12
Well ,someone had to say it
It seems to me that all this mythology inspired 'end times' fanaticism is inspired more by narrow minded religious bigotry and agenda driven subjective interpretation than anything else.
No doubt if it does occur it will take the form of hysterical cultists enacting out a self fulfilling prophesy by throwing nuclear warheads at each other (with every other reasonable,rational person caught in the middle).
Originally posted by VinceP1974
Iran says it's their role in this world to start a nuclear war. And it's been shown that Iran is deceitful negotiator but that is moot because Iran says the issue is not up for any more diplomacy. The question is.. what does one do about that?
Originally posted by patsy22
reply to post by VinceP1974
This was a really interesting post and thread,,, but you lost credibility when you declared "nuke Iran" before they nuke you.
It destroys your arguement, your theories and show paranoia and willingness to kill more innocent people.
there are alot of wonderful, kind loving Muslim families out there, who only want to live in peace.
the Quran and its teachings, do not sit with me as a faith of compassion, light and love, there is much hate and violence in there. I have read it.
The islamic approach to women, the hatred of Jews, their aversion to the cross,,,,,, and I have lived in a Muslim country,,,, and experienced all.
It taught me,,, to hold and respect my Christian beliefs, that Islam was not the way. I looked at the 2 side by side,,,
I believe there is darknesss there. But, the solution and the way forward is not more death and destruction.
And the US,,, if we believe that this nation is for good,,, then we were sadly let down there too,,,, in Sept 2001.
So who are the good guys???? Do any of us really know any more????
Originally posted by VinceP1974
I really believe it's a matter of time before some Muslim force somewhere destroys the US. If Iran doesn't do it, someoone else will.. eventually.
I rather go down fighting then sit on my hands waiting to be vaporized. I hope you can understand.