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reply posted on 2-1-2009 @ 05:10 AM by antonia
Originally posted by Notroh est
religion is a greek word meaning a people of common understanding
i dont see how that makes a person weak because they agree with others on an understanding
the understanding may be debated in the light of reason and evidence
and depending on the outcome of such criteque hence judged


If your understanding is based on falsehoods, you are weak. If you are unwilling to question these many falsehoods, you are weak. Why do i say these are falsehoods? There are literally hundreds of interpretations as to what will happen in the end times. Not to mention the source material for these prophecies has been edited, embellished and reconstituted over the years. We don't even know if we are reading what was originally written. Nor do we know WHY it was written in the first place. What was the intent?


ive noticed many islamics are unwilling to question the koran, personally i found it a pessimistic doctrine of hate and could not finish half of it
i wonder how many muslims are willing to read the true words of Christ not the ones that mohammed invented
as atheists are unwilling to question their non belief even when science supports the existance of a creator they simply invent elaborate hypotheticals and theories
people willing to kill another because they feel their understanding is threatened i would call weak


I find it telling many Christians refuse to question the validity of their holy book. I find it rather disturbing many Christians base their entire world view on thousand year old writings. I wonder when Christians will stop spreading their doctrine of Xenophobia. Do not assume Atheists do not question their non-belief (and do not assume I am an atheist).

It was stated by another member that "God" is love, God would not do these things. I am in complete agreement with you. "God", whatever this entity is, if it exists, is beyond human understanding. Applying human emotion and logic to it is blasphemous. I think many people today are using "God" to justify their own fears. You would do better to let you fears go, accept the self and accept others.


reply posted on 2-1-2009 @ 05:51 AM by VinceP1974
Originally posted by Maxit
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post by VinceP1974





I advocate attacking Iran now.. before they get the bomb. I advocate massive attacks onthe Palestinians. I would pursue just the opposite of what the Bible says the future is like.


Who you are to advocate attacks and bombing against people you don't even know?

I would rather advocate to do massive attacks against your person...


IN case you dont know this, HAMAS has declared war on the US. And once they finish thier Israel business, they intend on moving on to the next target.

So I'm working from self-defense. I believe in taking people at their word. And HAMAS said we will be destroyed.

I say No. We'll destroy you first.


reply posted on 2-1-2009 @ 06:02 AM by VinceP1974
Originally posted by antonia
Originally posted by Notroh est
religion is a greek word meaning a people of common understanding
i dont see how that makes a person weak because they agree with others on an understanding
the understanding may be debated in the light of reason and evidence
and depending on the outcome of such criteque hence judged


If your understanding is based on falsehoods, you are weak. If you are unwilling to question these many falsehoods, you are weak. Why do i say these are falsehoods? There are literally hundreds of interpretations as to what will happen in the end times. Not to mention the source material for these prophecies has been edited, embellished and reconstituted over the years. We don't even know if we are reading what was originally written. Nor do we know WHY it was written in the first place. What was the intent?


ive noticed many islamics are unwilling to question the koran, personally i found it a pessimistic doctrine of hate and could not finish half of it
i wonder how many muslims are willing to read the true words of Christ not the ones that mohammed invented
as atheists are unwilling to question their non belief even when science supports the existance of a creator they simply invent elaborate hypotheticals and theories
people willing to kill another because they feel their understanding is threatened i would call weak


I find it telling many Christians refuse to question the validity of their holy book. I find it rather disturbing many Christians base their entire world view on thousand year old writings. I wonder when Christians will stop spreading their doctrine of Xenophobia. Do not assume Atheists do not question their non-belief (and do not assume I am an atheist).

It was stated by another member that "God" is love, God would not do these things. I am in complete agreement with you. "God", whatever this entity is, if it exists, is beyond human understanding. Applying human emotion and logic to it is blasphemous. I think many people today are using "God" to justify their own fears. You would do better to let you fears go, accept the self and accept others.


The Bible predicted that the Jews would under an exile after teh Babylonian exile, And that this exile would be extraordinary long.

And that during this time they would have no peace in any land they fled to for security. And also that while they were ouyt of the land of Israel, the land would become dissolute and non-productive for any other people.

And then after a very very long time has gone by, God will miraculously return them to their land.. where they will be confront by the nations one last time and in the last battle, God will destroy the nations and rule Earth from Israel.

The Christian prophets said that the Jews , during the Christian era, would remain unbelieving because God has a special purpose for them. Also, that when the Church is over and the last bit of the world has heard the Bible, the Church age will end, and the Jews will return to thier land, as stated above.

And it's all happening to plan.
So you see, I did test the Bible.. everything God has said about the Jewish return from their long exile is happening.

All that's to happen next is for Israel to lose all its allies (We're their one), Israel to seek peace with Antichrist, and then the Muslim attack on the world.

And you don't need to be religious to know the Muslims are on a global mission of conquest.

The Atheists today sure are uppity. They're lucky they were born in a Christian-influenced society. It was the Protestant values of individual conscience that led to secularization of society.



reply posted on 2-1-2009 @ 06:28 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by VinceP1974




Islam Mahdi = Islam Mahdi (coming from last Prophet Muhammed(PeaceBeUponHim)'s family, going to work together with Jesus(PBUH) against evil and tyranny of deccal)
Islam Jesus(PBUH) = Christian Jesus(PBUH) is Messiah (which is never died, never crossed and his book Bibble changed by people after Jesus(PBUH), will be turn back to finalize his messages and going to tell Christians their wrong and going to kill deccal and his system)
Islam AntiChrist (Dejjal or deccal) = a person, who is endowed with forces above humans, going to tell that he is a prophet(but the last prophet is Muhammed(PBUH)) then he is going to tell that he is God!, and his tyranny will cover all countries which will not agree him)

i am a Muslim(Elhamdulillah) from Turkey, Istanbul my name is Abdullah. this is written against disinformation.

more information can be found in this video: www.harunyahya.tv...


reply posted on 2-1-2009 @ 06:34 AM by VinceP1974
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by VinceP1974


Also, Islam's god , Allah, is really the crescent moon god of war.


That's just silly. You obviously don't know much about Islam simply by this comment.

Allah means GOD. It's what god means in arabic lol.

Islam worships ONE god, creator of all things, creator of the worlds, moons etc. How can God be a moon god? lol

You do know that Arab christians also use the word Allah, because it means god.

No matter where the word originally came from, anyone who has read the quran would know that in the quran Allah simply means god. It's just a word, a way we humans try to communicate things by using a word.

We don't know of any name for god/allah. So we use words to describe, God/Allah. It's not a name it's a word.

"Allah (Arabic: الله, '', ) is the standard Arabic word for "God". While the term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God, it is used by Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, in reference to "God". ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah"

[edit on 1-1-2009 by _Phoenix_]



Well, thank you for correcting something I never said wrong. And why you're going on a rant about his name I dont know.. His name is meaningless. There is no significance to it.. other than the fact that it proves that Islam's Allah is the same as Pre-Islamic Mecca Allah of the Kabaa.


Islam is a descendant of ancient Babylonian religion. With two major innovations... it's Monotheistic and it claims a false association with the God of Israel.
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