Originally posted by Gorden
To VinceP1974 You said ... Rome never conquered all of Babylon .....
True ! -- well i think you are right ... would be wrong for me to define true and wrong ...
OK i think you are right there But in the war that is discriped in the Bible it never talks about ALL OF the globe..... it only talks about that
part of our globe that is populated with Gods children ... and there neighbor enemy..
Hi.. There are several symbols of the End Days Empire that suggest that the End Time must incorporate the footprint , or land-area, of the historical
One of them is the Statue in Daniel 2. Note how the 4th (and last) Empire of the Iron Legs is said to trample on all the preceded metals.. That means
that the lands of those past empires now finds itself under control of this 4th Empire.
The first 3 empires of the Statue are Babylon, Persia, Greece.
The Roman Empire never occupied most of the Babylon's land, and never any of Persia's Land, and Only some of Greece's. Greek empire went all the
way to India.
The Islamic Caliphate that destroyed Rome does rule the land of those three empires.
When the Rock from Heaven is hurled at the feet of the statue.. the entire statue is destroyed.. Note it all gets destroyed at once.. that means the
last empire is not just the feet but the entire statute.
Later on in Daniel there's a vision of three animal beasts these represent three empires, Babylon, Persia and Greece. The animals are Leopard, Bear
In Rev 13. there is a beast that "Now the beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s
mouth".. this means the End Time Empire consists of at least those three empires... which are the ones identified in Daniel.
And then in Rev 17 the woman rides the 7 Headed Beast. Note that the beast has 7 heads, one for each of the past Empires, but it itself is an 8th
Beast.. the entire thing as a unity is an 8th Empire.
The 8th Empire is a revival of the Islamic Caliphate. Notice that John says many times that neither the 7th or 8th Empire will be the 6th Empire. The
6th Empire is Rome.
Someone (sorry dont know who) said that there is to be a 7 year peace time. ... talked about in the Bible..... Where ???
There is talked about by Daniel a time when Jesus first came the 70 weeks periode - at THAT end there is 7 years when Jesus will give the last appeal
to the jewish people.... 7 years ... but that is past ! it ended with Stefans death.
After that the followers of Jesus were send to ALL THE WORLD. also the non jews people. That then markt the end of the 70 weeks period.
To Rev 20:4 The thrones and jugdment is in heaven...
The beheaded people are the once that where killed from the physical and later spiritual Rom... first in Roms arenas and later burned and so on... be-
headed is just a collective name for all of them that were killed because they did not adhere to the (then-) Anti christ !!
About Promises of God... i would like to piont out that they are ALLWAYS conditional !!!
Israel did not do there part - but worshiped idols - God did not do his part - to save them as promised !!
One piont i want to give to consider ...
In the near future is sone big thing to happen.. i think we all agree on that.. (?)
If i would be the "Antichrist", i would want every one to look into the wrong direction...
So to look in but one direction, i think is very dangers !!!
The biblical piont of view is, that the last problem is not a real kingdom but a way of thinking.
The Bible points us to the spiritual realm ...or in other words = we are ask to worship the way someone else wants us to....
Also we should consider that this "kingdom" (or way of thinking) is called smart and deceptive. Making people beleive that they are doing right,
when they are doing wrong.
and that on a big scale...
But most of world population are NOT muslems.... and they are not by nice words conviced but by the swort !!
Where i see a proplem with the Islam
There i raser beleive that that is the Romen beleive !! They make the people think that all is well when they are changing the law of God (cutting
out the 2. law = Exedus 20 and changing the 4. law) and stopping people from going to God (by making them believe that a person can forgive
Maybe you should make a survey about blasvamy in the NT ... that is what the Antichrist is blamed to do
(i will look it up and post the verses soon)
So I take it you think the Bible is fulllfilled. I disagree. Even though the Jews disobeyed, the OT is full of many many prophecies saying that God
will restore the Jews after a very very long exile. A 2nd exile (other than the Babylonian) was prophecized. And that exile is during the Church
Even Paul mentions this in Romans
Romans 11:25 For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: A partial
hardening has happened to Israel until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved
Paul is teaching that part of Israel will be deaf to God's message about Jesus. Once the word has gone out to all the world and the last Christians
come in, then God will return to the Jews and finish His program with them.