Israel demands monitors as part of a Gaza truce

There are gas and oil fields worth billions in potential revenue just off the Gazan shoreline that have been legally mandated as belonging to the Palestinians. If a binding economic agreement to lease the extraction rights to Isreal could be forged, it would benefit both sides.

The Palestinian Authority gets the much needed finance to rebuild a self-governed state on a now-blank canvas, and Israel gets local and secure energy reserves that could contribute up to 10% of national demand

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Agreed, and all in all it is the civillians who suffer and these one's are deffinatly included.

Good call by Israel. The world is/was starting to hate them.

two lines.

news.bbc.co.uk...



that was 2 years ago

Then unmonitors that alloweds Hezbolla to set up rocket launchers right next to them and fire them.

And, surprise, the postion that fireed the rockets was fired "BACK" on.

Those UN are useless.

As before, who will stop the Hamas????

No one wants to go in and make sure the Hamas folllow any truce.

No one wants to do anything to the Hamas when they break the truce.

That is why Israel wants "Nutreal" third parties to monitor the Hamas.

There also need to be some guartentee that someone will stop Iran from supplying and Hamas from using mortars and rockets.

I agree that the monitors will be in a dangerous situation but the one thing that this brings is hope. If there is hope then there is always a chance for good. This will most certainly be a good thing, but it is up to the two governments, not other nations to make peace.

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Good call, they do need unbiased monitors that are nor scared to do their jobs and report whatever misgivings are taking place by either country, and those same "monitors" who allowed the rocket posts to fire have as much blood on their hands as the soldiers who fired them, Can't they see what they are doing?(country leaders) don't the civilian lives mean anything to them? or in any case isn't their perspective countries worth saving and making better?

But there are monitors in Gaza and the West Bank. The martyr Rachel Corrie was one who witnessed and reported on the demolitions of Palestinian homes. These reports of abuses and crimes against humanity were ignored by the West. Rachel Corrie was killed for her troubles,







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That's horrible and i was not aware of her being killed for doing her job! they should be ashamed of themselves, it would appear some sort of security force would also need to be in place as well? if not to protect the monitors but all involved.

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they attack foreign navies in international waters , they attack the UN


shame means nothing when they want to further there cause

Let’s look at facts, shall we:

Iran, who we all know supplies Hamas with weapons, is sending a boat into a war zone.

It is obvious that the boat will have weapons for Israel's enemy.

Only a fool would allow their enemy to get their weapons resupplied.

You refer to the UN post that allowed Hezbollah terrorists to setup rocket launchers and fire them from right next to them,

After that, big surprise, the location that launched the rocket attacks was "counter" attacked.

If the UN will not do anything to one side of a conflict, yet try to punish the other side, they are useless and to be ignored.

Shame, you must refer to the shame that Hamas should feel launching attacks from schools, civilian homes, around crowds of civilians in hopes that the "COUNTER" attack injures or kills civilians.

Yes, shame on Hamas terrorists that (by their own words) target civilians and get civilians on both sides killed.

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Remember the USS Liberty? And that was nearly covered up; I wonder what else has been suppressed.

As National Service is part of Isreali culture, what you may call 'civilians' could also be called 'Armed Forces Reservists' by Hamas/Hezbollah and therefore a legitimate mililtary target

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Tom Hurndall also met a similar fate to Rachel Corrie...



Murdered in cold blood by an IDF snipers bullet to the head whilst rescuing Palestinian children from gunfire



He sure looks like he's wearing a paramilitary uniform...complete with dayglo orange vest



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Your idea might have had a small amount of validity, except for the facts.

Hamas targets women and children-on purpose-by their own words, right from the horses arse, er mouth.

Hamas targets old men and women.

IF, by what you say, it is ok to target Israel children/women/old people......

Then of course, you are saying it is ok for Israel to do the same.
Red Cresant dellivers terrorists and bombs, so they are a ligitimate target too, eh???

So by your words, everyone in Gaza is a ligigdamate target.

This kind of murdering sick mentality is what Hamas uses when it murders civillians.
They, however forget this when they get "counter" attacked.

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By the way, we don't know what he was wearing.

All we see is the pic, which "palliwood" could easily have removed what he was wearing and put vest on, after the fact.

You know, like the dead man getting back up on the stretcher.

You know, like the "dead" children running around and playing.

Look at the picture...and i mean REALLY look..

The photo was taken moments after the bullet struck and took his life, his ...the life of a British civilian photography student who out of conciense, took his camera to document the atrocities being perpetrated by the IDF in Gaza.

The shooter stated that he was dressed as a miltiaman weilding a pistol, yet he was unarmed and wearing a flourescent jacket to make sure he stood out as a humanitarian monitor

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How do you know when the pic was taken?

Because it's what Hamas tells you????

We all have seen the many Palliewood fictional movies put out as fact.

I question everything said by them.

Monitors won't do any good. And no better than those Gazans can aim rockets, you'd have to be a dumbass to put yourself out there. Talk about the gang that can't shoot straight.

And as far as that reporter. In combat, during engagement, slow is dead, so fast is good. Once trouble begins, if it moves, you kill it. The more you kill, the less shot you get.

This reporter was a dumbass.

He had no business being there to start with. When there's a history of trouble and shooting, and you put yourself out in the middle, you are just begging to get killed.

So he runs out. The Israeli shooter is not a damned mind reader. He is looking for dashing targets. The fact that he hit a moving target inidicates a shooter of great skill.

You go swimming among gators, you probably won't die of heat stroke. You place yourself in the middle of a shooting gallery, and get killed, it's nature's way of saying, "You're stupid, and don't have any business breeding."

Typical of idealists, they have no damned sense. They think their position is really going to bend the world to their thinking.

Consider the well-intentioned social workers who went to help the Iraqis. One elderly lady who was there to help feed Iraqis, certainly a noble idea, had her head cut off on videotape.

At some point, one has to use a bit of common sense, where, in the Middle East, isn't all that common.