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Topic started on 1-1-2009 @ 04:56 AM by alyosha1981

Israel demands monitors as part of a Gaza truce

news.yahoo.com

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – Israel demanded international monitors as a term of any truce with Gaza militants, as its warplanes bombed the parliament building in Gaza City Thursday and its ships attacked coastline positions of the territory's Islamic Hamas rulers.

An international agreement to set up such a force would give Israel a way to end its devastating, six-day offensive against Hamas, even as thousands of Israeli ground troops massed along the border in anticipation of a possible land invasion. So far, the campaign to crush rocket fire on southern Israel has been conducted largely from the air, and a poll on Thursday showed most Israelis aren't eager to see a ground push.

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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 04:56 AM by alyosha1981

Well what do we have here? is this a shread of hope? I think it's possible at least some expectations are coming to light form the ever deffiant Israel, of course monitors would need to be place to support a cease fire, but monitors of both sides would be needed in my opinion, and just as the world thought that this conflict was going into full ground assualt, here we go possible bargaining afoot! Way to go Israel! start acting like a responsible country and learn to give alittle! IMO the world is tired of this conflict and wants it to end.

What chance for peace is there really going to be unless both of these countries step up to the plate and start making some sacrifices in order to show good faith intentions. This is a start it may not be a huge breakthrough but it's a start an an eye in the right direction.

news.yahoo.com
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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 04:59 AM by ShAuNmAn-X

I sure hope so. It would be nice for the killing to stop. I hope by international monitors they don't mean US troops. Our boys are already bogged down in the ME.
Good info S&F!

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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:01 AM by Harlequin

The UN pulled there montors OUT after israel bombed them.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:04 AM by resistancia

They need to have non-Israelis and Arabs to be the monitors. There needs to be impartiality, no bias and side taking. Where do monitors like this come from?

ShaunmanX...I agree that US should not be involved here.

But yes this gives a glimmer of hope at least for a truce.

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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:07 AM by alyosha1981

Whever the monitor's come from as long a cease fire is started I really don't care I just want the violence to end and those poor people to get some humanitairan aid where it's needed, then those heads of Israel and Palestine can come to some terms and attempt peace!

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:14 AM by alyosha1981

reply to post by ShAuNmAn-X

Thank you, and yes I agree I hope they don't mean American monitors.I think possibly European because thats where the other monitors came from.I just hope this chance for peace over there is given a fiighting chabce, no pun intended.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:18 AM by ShAuNmAn-X

reply to post by alyosha1981

I can't wait to see what comes out of this. If they want truly independent monitors I would say ask the Japanese. As far as I know their government has no vested interest in the views of either side. I feel that Europeans may side more with Israel, as would Americans. Arabs would side with the Palestinians. A truly neutral party would be best IMO.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:18 AM by pluckynoonez

OPERATION FISH N' A BARREL delayed?

When will anyone learn that terrorists must be killed, in all finality, as if finality were a different thing...for terrorists.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:24 AM by alyosha1981

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well here's the problem with that, not all of the human beings killed over there were/are terrorists, some of the dead included civillian women and children, should they in your opinion deserve(d) to die? www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:26 AM by Agit8dChop

Well, it’s a pretty damn good request.

If you get someone non biased to either side, stating facts like
- Amount of rockets fired per day
- Amount of progress by the government to eliminate a militia amongst its people

Maybe some would understand what Israel's receiving.

Because, from what ive read, Israel are trying to alert citizens around bombing sites via phone calls and pamphlets...

aRESIDENTS at certain addresses in the Gaza Strip have been receiving unusual phone calls since the Israeli air assault began on Saturday - a request that they and their families leave their homes as soon as possible for their own safety.

More unusual than the recorded message is the Arabic-speaking caller, who identifies himself as being from the Israeli defence forces, The Australian reports.

www.news.com.au...

On the same hand, the Gaza strip is becoming a slum, a 3rd world city full of isolated angry Arabs being denied a free sense on their apparent '' shared piece of land ''
These Arabs are obviously going to become agit8d.

Why cant Israel include Gaza in its economy, but let the Palestinians build, produce and travel on their land as they see fit..

similar to the Vatican.

so long as Palestine allows its profits and economy to be one with Israel.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:32 AM by alyosha1981

Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Why cant Israel include Gaza in its economy, but let the Palestinians build, produce and travel on their land as they see fit..

I completly agree, I bet if Isarel would at the least give then those tolken
rights, that Hamas wouldn't be firing rockets into their backyards, Let them move freeley on their own land being a key factor ans well as building.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:33 AM by ShAuNmAn-X

I agree, Agit8dChop has a very good idea there. I wonder why it has never been considered by either side. Good post Agit8d!

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:37 AM by alyosha1981

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I wonder if in conflicts past that they were just both to blinded by their own "wants" to reconize the rational of these simple efforts? would they have brought everlasting peace? who knows but they make alot of sense to me I agree good post Agit8ed!! star for you

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:38 AM by Styki

Well you have to see this for what it really is. This is not peace. Hamas and his militants have moved underground. Reports have been coming in that the air strikes have slowed and Israel is running out of targets. All this and the rocket fire still continues.

This is not peace. This is an option. With monitors on each side it would be reported when militants start to fire rockets. Israel wants somebody to be there to say hey, you broke the rules; because at this moment they are the only ones being held accountable for them.

I will say this again, this is not peace. The conflict remains. As long as Hamas is still in charge the conflict remains, it would just be put off for another day.

Just because the violence stops doesn't mean peace will come. Peace is not a break to resupply and make more rockets.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:44 AM by Styki

reply to post by Agit8dChop

I don't think Israel could let the Palestinians travel freely on their land. That would take a certain degree of trust. I agree that if everything was forgotten then it would be possible. There is just no way that could happen right now.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:44 AM by alyosha1981

Originally posted by Styki
Well you have to see this for what it really is.

Originally posted by Styki

Just because the violence stops doesn't mean peace will come. Peace is not a break to resupply and make more rockets.

Completly correct just a step in the right direction, IMO a good play by Israel to attempt the windown of military action, not because they have run out of targets, if that was the case then the ground assualt would have already begun.

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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:45 AM by ShAuNmAn-X

reply to post by Styki

Regardless of who's in charge there will be an end to the current fighting. That will be the first step in hopefully resolving this 60+ year old conflict. I hope that this will work to help end this all and get these two sides back to the table.

reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:48 AM by alyosha1981

reply to post by ShAuNmAn-X

Your right,At least it is a step in the right direction, but I agree with what you said and I doubt if Israel will do a turn around on this one and continue with the ground assault. And what is the consences on bothe sides having these monitors? will Israel accept them or just claim Palestine needs them?

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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:52 AM by ShAuNmAn-X

reply to post by alyosha1981

I hope not. Hopefully (I know that it's a big stretch) the two sides will take into consideration all of the civilians that are being killed. I really wish that there was a rule that opposing leaders who want to go to war should be locked in a cage and have a fight to the death. I think something like that would make governments think twice about going to war. The problem with governments is they're not the ones who usually get their arses shagged in a conflict. It's their populations.

One can wish right?
Sorry about my rant but I hate war and killing.

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