Nostradamus and the Moon landing hoax, page 2


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reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 04:29 AM by turbonium
Okay, let's look at one of the quatrains I've cited..

4 - 29
The Sun hidden eclipsed by Mercury
Will be placed only second in the sky:
"Of Vulcan Hermes will be made into food,"
"The Sun will be seen pure, glowing red and golden."
.

Could the "Sun" mean gold? No, because he describes the "Sun" as being "in the sky". It can't be the actual Sun either, because he says it's hidden, and eclipsed by Mercury. So we have a "Sun" in the sky, but it isn't the actual Sun.

I've interpreted the "Sun" as Apollo, the Greek Sun god. The Apollo capsules were in the sky, so we have a "Sun" that fits the quatrain.

Of course, the planet Mercury is too far away to hide the Sun from our view in an eclipse, unlike our much-closer Moon. So it's not the planet, nor an alchemy symbol, since it too is an object in the sky.

But "Mercury" does fit as the Mercury space capsules, in the sky.

The Mercury space capsule went into a sub-orbital flight. Apollo went into low-Earth orbit, which is slightly higher than sub-orbit. Hence, the Apollo capsule is "hidden" from view, "eclipsed" by the Mercury capsule.

So the first line fits perfectly.

The second line also fits:

Mercury was placed first in the sky (in sub-orbit). The Sun (Apollo) "will be placed only second in the sky" (in low-Earth orbit).


The third line refers to "Hermes". This fits perfectly as Gus Grissom. The alchemy interpretation - which has already failed in the first two lines - is totally silent about Hermes. Because it doesn't fit into an alchemy interpretation.

So just ignore what you can't fit in!!!

Wrong. Everything has to fit in. Hermes can't be ignored. The Sun and Mercury have to fit the description as written.

I hope I've explained my point....


reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 06:36 PM by Mintwithahole.
Originally posted by turbonium
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Well researched my friend but I don't believe it for a minute. You can make twist anything to make it look more sinisster and mysterious than it really is. for example in Greek mythology Orion, the son of Poseidon,is murdered a by Diana the goddess of the moon, through the machinations of Apollo.
The constellation in the Apollo badge is Orion. Where did Apollo 11 land?The Sea of Tranquility and who was the god of the seas? Poseidon! Diana is the goddess of the moon and Apollo is another name for the devil. Put it all together and you could say this was a prophetic warning that the devil would kill the next generation of lunar astronauts, who will travel to the moon aboard Orion!


Thanks for the reply.

I agree that the quatrains can be twisted into almost anything, since they are so obscure and cryptic in nature.

But we have to ask ourselves if the quatrains were intended to be stretched and twisted to such lengths as in your example above. If a direct interpretation can't be made, then it's pretty much worthless, imo.

For example - I've interpreted the "Sun" as Apollo, the Greek Sun god. That's it. I don't see how it's valid to interpret the Sun as Apollo, and then find a link to Apollo, to make it into something else entirely unrelated to the "Sun" in the quatrain.

I don't see how your example fits in any of the quatrains I've cited - is it supposed to?


No, the example I made was to show just how easy it is to twist and place out of context Nostrodamus' writings. As you say, maybe they were meant to be used in such a fashion, in which case they could be referring to almost anything as he never wrote them in historical order. A kind of century by century account of history would have been preferable. . . However I have to say, some of his prophecies do strike home pretty hard such as the fire of London quatraine. That one really does give me goose bumps. . .


reply posted on 8-2-2009 @ 06:57 PM by Ant4AU
reply to post by turbonium




But we have to ask ourselves if the quatrains were intended to be stretched and twisted


There is know need to ask ourselves this, it is obvious they were meant to be stretched and twisted. He lived during a time when people were chomping at the bits to take his head. His ability to write so obscure, possible, made some of his predictions true. But the one thing they did do was make him one of the greatest creative writhers of all time. My opinion only.

Great work on your interpretations. It is nice to see a thread that has been well researched.



reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 07:00 AM by turbonium1
Originally posted by turbonium
4 - 30
"More than eleven times the Moon will not want the Sun,"
Both raised and lowered in degree:
And put so low that one will stitch little gold:
"After famine, plague, the secret will be uncovered."

The first line is simply brilliant. Exceptional.

The "Sun" is Apollo, as before. More than 11 times, the Moon ("will not want") Apollo. That is, more than eleven Apollo missions will not reach the Moon.

There were 17 Apollo missions, which explains "more than 11 times". But Apollo 11 was by far the most famous, (supposedly) putting the first man on the Moon. So Nostradamus chose the number eleven, to emphasize the specific mission recognized as the 'pinnacle of human achievement' - Apollo 11 - was also hoaxed, and did not reach the Moon.

Second line: Apollo never goes higher than Earth orbit, at varying altitudes ("degrees").

Third line: 2 possible interpretations.

"put so low that one" (Apollo I) will never leave Earth at all. Grissom and crew are killed in a fire while testing the capsule on Earth. "Little gold" means little success or good fortune comes to NASA from this one disastrous mission.

Or it may refer to all the Apollo missions, which are "put so low" that "one" (NASA) "will stitch little gold" (will not truly benefit from the hoax).

Fourth line: Nostradamus predicts that the hoax will eventually be revealed
to the world.


[edit on 4-1-2009 by turbonium]


An old post of mine, before I added a '1' to my name.

To:"stitch little gold" - gold stitches are emblems of 'achievement'. So the Apollo craft is "put so low".in Earth orbit is hardly a milestone achievement. .
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