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An ancient riddle of a modern weapon




Topic started on 31-12-2008 @ 06:31 PM by Ranger23


This is an ancient, metaphorical riddle. These both seem to describe some sort of military organization or weapon, either in the past, present, or near future. Kudos to anyone who can identify and explain what these might be. Anyways, Happy New Year! And good hunting to all of us in 2009 on our quest for the truth.


• have same or similar power as a scorpion but if one uses an animal as a metaphor for them, they are more similar to locusts
• they are not supposed to harm the grass or any plants or trees, and not the "good guys" either
• They aren't allowed to kill the "bad guys" but only can torment them for five months with their tails
• the torment is like the sting of a scorpion
• they look like "horses" ready for battle
• on their heads they wear what looked like crowns of gold
• their faces are like human faces
• they had hair like a woman's hair
• their teeth are like lions teeth
• their chests are like iron breastplates
• the sound of their wings is like the the sound of many horse-drawn chariots racing into battle
• they have tails like scorpions with stingers
• their king is called in Hebrew, Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon. In Hebrew this is translated as destruction, or ruin. In Greek, this is "Destroyer".



• there are four groups of these bound at the banks of the Euprhates
• prepared for the very instant they are to kill much of the human race
• they can be described as an army of 200 million cavalry troops
• they have something called red, blue and yellow "breast plates" or armor
• their "horses" heads are like those of a lion
• out of their mouths comes fire, and smoke, and sulfur
• the power of these "horses" is in their mouths and in their tails
• their tails are "like snakes" with heads that inflict harm



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reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 07:02 PM by TheRandom1


Um... Should I go ahead and tell everyone where you got that from?

Some people think it's talking about helicopters, bt I believe they are actual beings, not a metaphore for some weapon, as most assume, why can't they be real eh?

I think that honesly, the result of these locusts sting is something that will seem like a zombie out break, think about it, peple walking around mangled and such because they've tried to kill themselves and were'nt able to, it's be like a movie.

I actually wanted to write a script for a movie about a team of researchers that go to the hollow earth and find these creatures and try to get out alive.

-Lahara



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reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 07:06 PM by TheRandom1


Whatever they really are, they're pretty freaky looking eh?



Btw,your avatar's hot!

-Lahara

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reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 07:27 PM by Anonymous ATS


Why couldn't the creatures described be tiny instead of large, maybe viruses? Perhaps nano-technic? I'm trying to think of swarming things, most things that swarm are small. . . The scorpions tail could be more in metaphorical description of the effect of infection perhaps. The chest plate of iron may refer to resistance to treatment. Staying with the small-scale analysis, maybe the "as woman's hair" reference could be about cilia surrounding the creature to provide movement? Just some thoughts. . .



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reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 11:54 PM by Revealation


Armies of Demons and Angels.

Revelation 9:



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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 05:06 PM by Ranger23


Btw,your avatar's hot!

-Lahara

Thanks. Gillian Anderson is the hottest actress ever!


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reply posted on 5-1-2009 @ 05:16 PM by Anonymous ATS


I still think it is an ancient seeing of a contemporary battle helicopter, ie, Apache.



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reply posted on 10-1-2009 @ 06:02 PM by Ranger23


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Okay, if it is, where does the part about the hair come in?



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 11:54 AM by Retseh


I think it's all to do with scale.

Sounds like a description of certain forms of bacteria or virus based warfare, selectively engineered to only affect the "bad guys".



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reply posted on 11-1-2009 @ 04:19 PM by Ranger23


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That sort of make sense, like it being some sort of plague. But what kind of virus could it specifically be?



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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:14 PM by Heckman


Originally posted by Ranger23
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Okay, if it is, where does the part about the hair come in?


It perhaps could be pilots with long hair



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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:19 PM by TasteTheMagick


Sounds like some kind of insect to me. One that carries some kind of disease. One that we probably don't know about yet or one that could be being engineered through technology. Insects can come in some pretty wild shapes. I've seen pictures of insects that could EASILY be called unicorns and some that EASILY look like fairies.



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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:32 PM by TheFretwalker


Could this possibly be, an angel?
My kitty told me to say that.



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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:34 PM by dooper


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You're talking about the Book of Revelations, and the one thing that fits in terms of the trumpet and is a perfect description, is the spread of Islam from Arabia.

I have a more detailed comparison, including the Muslim writings that indicate about the "Crowns of gold."

The Arabs came from the land of locusts, fought on horseback, left to spread Islam in 632, wore gold turbans, had faces of men, or beards - the distinguishing mark of manhood in the ME, the Arabs of that period had long hair as hair of women, as described by Pliny Nat. His. 7:28, and Ammaniaus Marcelliunu in the fourth and Jerome in the fifth century.

The breastplates as it were breastplates of iron indicates iron, but not exactly a solid breastplate, or he would have just said "breastplate." This would be a good description of iron mail that the Musims favored.

And Muhammed was a fallen star. He was an heir to the rule of Mecca, but with his father and grandfather dying while he was young, he was pushed aside to become an embittered servant commoner.

The Musims had orders not to destroy vegetation, as they came from a land where it was so precious.

The destructive work of Islam was to continue for a prophetic five months, or 150 days.

It was in AD 632 that the Arab hosts burst outward in conquest.

In 732 Charles Martel stopped their European expansion.

In 762 the capitol of the Saracen Empire wsa moved to Baghdad.

In 781 the Caliph Haround Al Rashid was their ruler, and in 782, the second year of his reign, Al Rashid was engaged in friendly correspondence with the Christian rulers of Europe.

632 to 782 is - 150 years, or five prophetic months, with each day being one year.



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reply posted on 13-1-2009 @ 11:44 PM by dooper


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Furthermore, after the Arab scourge, the world was divided into three parts. Two had fallen before the previous five destructive agencies. One still has to fall by the angels bound at the river Eurphrates.

Just before 1000 AD, Turks arrived on the banks of the Euphrates, and didn't cross until 1057, or two generations later.

There were four angels, or four powers. The Turks were divided into four kingdoms under the four grandsons of Togrul, father of Malek Shah.

Consider:

1. They were bound by the river Euphrates.

2. There were four commands.

3. Their armies were of horsemen, apparently countless.

4. The Turks numbered their horsemen by MYRIADS instead of thousands. Gibbon, Chapter 57.

5. The Ottomans until a very recent period wore warlike apparel of SCARLET, BLUE, and YELLOW.

6. The first time gunpowder was used was during their campaigns, and they had huge cannon they used in the assault on Constantinople. Fourteen batteries thundered at once on the most accessable places, and one was mounted with one-hundred thirty balls.

7. There was power in the tails of the horses. This is singular. Among the Turks, the horse's tail is the emblem of power. The number of horses tails determines rank. A Pacha of three tails is a great officer.



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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 02:36 PM by Ranger23


That's really a lot of in depth research. I've got to say that's pretty convincing. But I was watching this world war two documentary and there was this Brit tank that had the same color armor or something. It was like some sort of camo used in the desert.



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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 02:53 PM by dooper


Ranger, a while back, somewhere, I was asked to explain the trumpets. There are about five pages in my posts.

The Roman Empire was divided into three parts. We just addressed the last part when it fell.

The earlier trumpets demonstrate the invasions and fall of the other two parts of the Roman Empire, which was the "world" of John.

I'm not real familiar with how to direct you to those posts that I made, but if you're interested, they are here somewhere. It's very detailed, and parallels history perfectly.

First Trumpet Goths.

Second Trumpet Vandals which crossed at Gibralter and attacked from the sea which had been dominated by the Roman navy.

Third Trumpet, Hungarians crossed Danube, crossed Rhine, battled on the Marne, again at the river Rhone, and even the river Po. When their leader died, the banks of the river Danube was turned aside, and buried beneath the river bed lies the bones of the star called Wormwood.

And so on. Good luck with your research.

Also if you want a pretty good text, order the "People's New Testament With Notes" and commentary by Johnson.

There is a wealth of historical information included alongside the texts which will help one to understand much of the visuals that John describes.

The thing about prophecies, or understanding these visions, is that they can't be selected and plugged into one vision, and not fit in place with the preceding and following visions.

If a description is to be assumed, then it must be in the right place, at the right time, and fit all the other context of the vision.

I don't know if I helped or not.



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reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 08:26 PM by fritz


MMmmmmmm

The Book of Revelations cast apon the World Wide Web to descend in to the Abyss that is ATS.

It's all in there peeps, the 4 Horsemen [now it appears there's 5!], the nuclear strikes on Sodom and Gomorrah, the Tsumi that wiped out most of the Earth when the asteroid wiped out the dinosaurs etc.

It's a damned good book, though a bit of a heavy read. No need to worry though because we've got at least another 2 years and 10 months to find out what these crittars from the Abyss look like.

Roll on 2012!



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