Excellent. More fun coming this weekend on the unending question (saga?) of where the hell Obama was born and if he's really American or not. Get back to us when they post the papers and we can all tear into them!

Fun fun fun.

This would be extremely timely wouldn't you say, if it's for real AND if it's for Obama, Jr. It could end up being his father's birth in Kenya which we already know. Might even be a publicity stunt. Not saying it is FlyersFan, good catch and I'll be checking back!

I just noticed they said the guy who found it sent it to the station 2nd class mail????? OMG.... if it's true why in the WORLD would he do that?

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it'll get swept under the carpet as usual.

When will this issue finally die?????

I mean, do you really think that the DNC would have backed Obama's bid for the presidency if his ability to serve was even slightly in jeopardy?

I know that the RNC was stupid enough to allow a simpleton like Palin to run for Vice President, but come on, if there was even a chance that this issue had any merit the DNC would have just ran Hilary.

Face it guys, Obama will be the next President of the United States, get over it.

Think the U.S. has bigger issues to worry about than this 'natural born' debate, like the mess Bush has left behind.

Originally posted by sn00daard

Originally posted by truthquest
Obama has also been accused of a possible role in a suspicious death, and I'm just as interested in that story as well.

Care to elaborate?

See my above post once more because I edited in the hyperlink. Three members of Obama's church were murdered within forty days of each other. They were widely believed to all be homosexual or bisexual and prompted newspapers to ask if an anti-gay serial killer was at large.

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truthquest:

what are you implying?

come out and say it.

This crap is nuts.... I meen seriouse nuts. But if he has lied about his birth and is not a true natural born citizen then he should step aside.... But then who would take his place? Heir Clinton? Now thats even more scary!

Originally posted by truthquest
This is definitely the first piece of evidence that has me seriously doubting Obama's birth.

No, I've seen him. I'm pretty sure he was, in fact, born.
I'm getting some pop-corn!

As of right now Ed says he doesn't know for sure exactly what the divorce papers state.We have to stay tuned to find out Friday.

Originally posted by truthquest
This is definitely the first piece of evidence that has me seriously doubting Obama's birth. The previous stuff simply raised questions, but this would be really serious evidence that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

Why, exactly?

From a legal point of view---and that is what matters in a legal matter such as this one---the certification from the authorities in the state of Hawaii as to the birth is what matters, versus an old document in a civil case.

It is quite reasonable to assume that somebody might have made a mistake in preparing the divorce document, especially given that "Barack Hussein Obama" is the name of Senator Obama's father as well, and he was born in Kenya.

Anyway, the U.S. Supreme Court has recently looked into and rejected an case regarding the legality of Obama's eligibility for office.

Didn't the supreme court already refuse to hear this case?

I for one think Obama is hiding his birth status because he know it will
disqualify him. Why else would he resist tooth and nail and simply prove it already and shut everyone up about it? My guess is the reason is because he can't.

I would like to see these documents before I judge any new evidence. Can you imagine the fallout if it's true?

I think that threat alone will prevent the supreme court from opening that bottle.

Originally posted by mbkennel

Originally posted by truthquest
This is definitely the first piece of evidence that has me seriously doubting Obama's birth. The previous stuff simply raised questions, but this would be really serious evidence that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

Why, exactly?

From a legal point of view---and that is what matters in a legal matter such as this one---the certification from the authorities in the state of Hawaii as to the birth is what matters, versus an old document in a civil case.

It is quite reasonable to assume that somebody might have made a mistake in preparing the divorce document, especially given that "Barack Hussein Obama" is the name of Senator Obama's father as well, and he was born in Kenya.

Anyway, the U.S. Supreme Court has recently looked into and rejected an case regarding the legality of Obama's eligibility for office.

Obama had strong incentive to get Hawaiian government workers to manufacture a birth certificate for him. However, no such strong incentive existed at the time the divorce papers were written about Obama's birthplace. So, I consider the divorce paper to be far stronger evidence than the state of Hawaii may have. Furthermore, one of the parties divorce documents have gone missing when they really should not have which took the PI by surprise. That just adds a question of how they went missing.

The document does not even seem to use the words "Barack Hussein Obama". It says something like "His son, born in Kenya." While it surely could have been a mistake, there is no reason for me to believe it was a mistake, so I'll take it as true. Someone could have also made a mistake in issuing Obama a Hawaii birth certificate if he was born in Kenya.

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