Though I would love to debate with you just for the sake of debating, I have to agree with you. It is only a matter of time before we see the military patrolling our cities under various pretense. The first goal is to make it commonplace to see armed troops in the street. No better way to start than to protect citizens from possible terrorism and natural disasters.

I agree with you.There are some lines that should not be crossed.The use of NG troops in rescue situations is slightly different than their use in policeing actions.If they are armed they are breaking the law.The NG can be activated in emergency situations.What's the emergency?

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Under orders from New York Governor David Paterson, members of the New York Army and Air National Guard will conduct additional security missions and stand ready to respond to city authorities if a man-made or natural emergency occurs,”

Sounds like a man-made or natural emergency will be coming to a New York city near you.

Eactly, this is to have us 'get used to' a military presence, all in the name of "The War on Terror"

Sorry, to break it to some of you, but this perpetual war of "Terror"? is a front for many activities of elites and economic CEO's and powerhouses.

This is outrageous. Imagine any other day of the year, military patrolling NYC!

Wonder what will happen tomorrow when nothing happens and no military take over took place.

All of those in NY, see you tomorrow.................with all your rights in place and secure.

Wow, they are helping the NYPD watch over 1 million people packed into a couple of blocks. This must be the end of the USA as we know it. This is where the military is going to start taking over. They are going to be on the streets everywhere now. You guys crack me up. Also as for the inauguration you will need the extra security with that many people in one place. Better to be safe then sorry.

I'm glad they are here in the USA - where they belong - rather then over in Iraq or Afghanistan. Our National Guard does NOT belong over there.

BTW - the UN is having an emergency meeting at 11pm tonight - New Years Eve - in regards to the Gaza situation. I'm sure security is going to be extremely tight all around the city.

Think about it for a second.

If they was trying to do a military take over don't you think that they would use soldiers that aren't civilians 29 days out of the month? These guys are more civilian the soldiers (sorry part timers it is true).

I'd rather them here then overseas any day. Sorry but this doesn't come off as bad as me. If the government told me that they would have the entire U.S. military guarding important cities, borders, me and my family I'd be all thumbs up to them.


You call them the National Guard. I call them Americans helping Americans.

So do you think that there is no military presence in NY each day? They are always there because it is a target. Trust me. I do not see why this is a big deal?

If there was to be martial law it would have happened weeks after 9/11 not years. C'mon people, chill, pray there are no attacks world wide , have a drink or smoke a fat one and have a happy new year....

I understand why you posted this, DD. I'm not going to peg it as sinister yet, however. Simply put, the national guard has been grossly misused by the federal government over the past 7 years. Their entirely intended purpose was, is, and should always be exactly what they'll be doing tonight... being deployed at the state level by a standing governor to provide backing support of local authorities in the path of a (existing or potential) crisis.

stand ready to respond to city authorities if a(n)... emergency occurs

If that's not a perfect description of what our guardsmen should be utilized for, rather than trumping around in some hell hole desert halfway around the globe conducting a needless ground war, I do not know what is.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
So long Posse Comitatus Act, it was nice knowing ya!

If you can't find a conspiracy, you're going to make one up. Can't live without 'em

Take a good look at what was actually stated here:

“Under orders from New York Governor David Paterson, members of the New York Army and Air National Guard will conduct additional security missions and stand ready to respond to city authorities if a man-made or natural emergency occurs,”

In other words, this is not part of some directive by the federal government, this is an order from the state government. The governor is well within his right to deploy the National Guard if he/she feels the situation calls for it. New Year's Eve celebrations in New York City is most definitely a cause for heightened security, especially when one considers the high level of instability in the world today.

In that same quotation, note the statement "stand ready to respond to city authorities if a man-made or natural emergency occurs." In other words, they are simply standing by in a more mobilized posture, not actively taking part in law enforcement operations, and are controlled by citiy authorities (i.e., Michael Bloomberg) IF the need arises. They are simply standing by, nothing more. They are not violating Posse Comitatus in any way.

Oh BTW, Posse Comitatus exempts National Guard units under the authority of a state governor. So no, Posse Comitatus is alive and well and here to stay.

I am convinced most conspiracy theorists are so because they want these theories to be true.

Why do people think any military presence in the United States is some violation of the Posse Comitatus Act? Did no one bother to read it before presuming this?

The Posse Comitatus Act SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS national guard troops to operate in a police capacity when under orders from the state governor.

Which is exactly what happened in this case. The OP quote even says the guard is acting under specific orders of the governor.

More needless hysteria over nothing.

I saw two soldiers armed with m-16's along side the freeway in Las Vegas yesterday. I am not sure what they were doing. It was just weird and kinda scary.