Holocaust death statistics

Holocaust is a word meaning "great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire." It is usually reserved for man-made disasters (e.g. "nuclear holocaust"). When used to refer to genocide, the word generally refers to the deaths of Jews and other victims of Nazi Germany during World War 2. (It is also often used to describe the genocide of the Armenians in 1915-1917 by the Ottoman Turkish régime).

Although the true figure may never be known, here are estimates:

* 11 million people died.

* 6 million of these were Jewish (close to two thirds of Europe's Jewish population).

* Up to 250,000 were Roma/Sinti (Gypsies).

* 1.5 million were children.

In addition, Hitler targeted homosexuals, communists and other political dissidents, , slavs, Jehovah's Witnesses, dissidents, some Protestant pastors and Catholic priests, black people, the mentally and physically disabled, and others. The figures include the camps as well as the mass graves in the countryside, killings on the street, organized mass shootings (such as Babi Yar, etc.) and basically, any person singled out for their religion, political beliefs, or their sexual orientation.

There are approximately 250 Holocaust museums and centres around the world where you can learn more, as well as extensive information elsewhere on the Internet.

Originally posted by chickenshoes

Originally posted by ConservativeJack


what other people

experienced identical *your word* suffering as Jews during WW2

These, for one:

Other groups were also persecuted and killed, including the Roma; Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war; ethnic Poles; the disabled; homosexual men; and political and religious opponents.

en.wikipedia.org...

I also found this on WikiAnswers:

Holocaust death statistics

Holocaust is a word meaning "great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire." It is usually reserved for man-made disasters (e.g. "nuclear holocaust"). When used to refer to genocide, the word generally refers to the deaths of Jews and other victims of Nazi Germany during World War 2. (It is also often used to describe the genocide of the Armenians in 1915-1917 by the Ottoman Turkish régime).

Although the true figure may never be known, here are estimates:

* 11 million people died.

* 6 million of these were Jewish (close to two thirds of Europe's Jewish population).

* Up to 250,000 were Roma/Sinti (Gypsies).

* 1.5 million were children.

In addition, Hitler targeted homosexuals, communists and other political dissidents, , slavs, Jehovah's Witnesses, dissidents, some Protestant pastors and Catholic priests, black people, the mentally and physically disabled, and others. The figures include the camps as well as the mass graves in the countryside, killings on the street, organized mass shootings (such as Babi Yar, etc.) and basically, any person singled out for their religion, political beliefs, or their sexual orientation.

There are approximately 250 Holocaust museums and centres around the world where you can learn more, as well as extensive information elsewhere on the Internet.

So, out of 11,000,000 deaths, 6,000,000 were Jewish people. But, to my understanding, the actual number of Jewish people is still not completely certain.

The point is, yes, of course others groups were killed in the holocaust, not just Jewish people. I do not understand why their deaths seem to bear more importance than those of all the Roma, Polish, Jehovah's Witnesses, Homosexuals, Black people, Russians, or the mentally challenged who were also killed.

As I said before, all those other groups are human as well, not just Jewish people. It was tragic for all involved, not just one demographic.

Originally posted by asmeone2
reply to post by sdrawkcabII

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We are really put in a damned-if-we-do, damned-if-we-don't situation by foreigners when it comes to aiding other countries.

If we give money to countries and they misuse that, then we are blamed. Such is the case with Israel and N Korea (I think.)

If we do not give foreign aid and a country starts a war or genocide, like Rwanda, Darfur, Khmer Rouge, we are also blamed for not stopping that.

Originally posted by chickenshoes

Originally posted by ConservativeJack

hope your not trying to convince me that the jews didn't actually die?

are u one of those,...

Holocaust never happened luns' ?

I have read 9,000,000 as high as 12,000,000 Jews died.

So you need to do some more research telling me that Romanians suffered more? LMFAO

First of all, stop trying to put words in my mouth. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were trying to bait me. I will not take it.

Now, I never, ever once even implied that Jewish people did not suffer and die in the Holocaust. If you actually have a quote from me stating that or something to that effect, I'd appreciate you sharing.


As I said before and will say again, other people besides just the Jews suffered just as much. The Jews were not the only ones murdered, and I'm pretty sure you must know that.

Oh, and the Roma are not Romanian. They are Gypsies. Maybe you are the one who needs to do more research.

en.wikipedia.org...

[edited to add] I notice that you did not provide a source for your numbers in your above post, like I did. Perhaps you are one of those "loons" who pulls numbers out of the air in a futile attempt to make a point.



[edit on 1/1/2009 by chickenshoes]

I recently heard that the number of Jews thought to have died in the holocaust ( 6 million) was recently found to actually be to low of an estimate. Supposedly this was due to some revealed Nazi documents that raised the number by 3+ million. Do you have any information about this?

Thank You very much,

Daniel Mittleman responds:
I am one of the people who answer questions for The Holocaust History Project. I am not familiar with any recently found Nazi documents that would raise the Holocaust death toll by 3 million. I suspect that the information you heard is incorrect.

The estimate of the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust was established by Historians and demographers in the very late 1940s. While 6 million is a shorthand for the estimate (I have seen academic estimates from 4.8 million to 7.5 million), the estimation methodologies used back then have held valid all this time. There have been several subsequent studies all of which have produced findings within the same order of magnitude.

I hope this helps.