what should happen is both sides need a good spanking and told to sit in the corner and be quiet
abd give peace a [snip] chance
but neither sides wants that
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reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 07:40 AM by bodrul
reply to post by poet1b
The Arabs have given Israel that olive branch
Leave Occupied Land and you get Truce with everyone with normal Ties,
and what most pro Isreal reps here shout recognition.
Even by Iran.
The Arabs have given Israel that olive branch
Leave Occupied Land and you get Truce with everyone with normal Ties,
and what most pro Isreal reps here shout recognition.
Even by Iran.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 07:40 AM by bodrul
reply to post by Frankidealist35
look at the developing market, China which will soon surpass the US
the US isnt the only big dog now
look at the developing market, China which will soon surpass the US
the US isnt the only big dog now
Now THAT I can fully agree with and support. reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 08:55 AM by on_yur_6
Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by FlyersFan
since 2002, 22 israelies have been killed by rockets
11,000 palestinians have been killed in revenge.
get some perspective here.
Why don't you include statistics for all of the suicide bombings prior to shutting down the Gaza border? Israelis couldn't ride a bus or go to market without worrying about some nut job wishing to go see Allah.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 10:47 AM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by xoxo stacie
Iran and the Persians need to step back. They do not lead the Middle East. They will not lead the Middle East. They are Persians. The Arabs don't want any part of that. For past centuries the Persians tried to conquer the Middle East and were driven back. Many Arab States fear an Iranian dominated Middle East. Its barely been one hundred years since Turkish domination ended. The Arab states do not want any foreign domination. At least the Jews are Semitic brothers. The Persians aren't even cousins.
They stick their nose too far into an endemic Semitic conflict and they will get it cut off. A number of Arab states already know the real war isn't the current mess with Israel, who stay in their little section of land. The real war is going to be the one in the future pushing the Persians back across the Tigris and Euphrates. The Gulf States know it, The Saudis know it, and Egypt knows it. A number of them want nuclear weapons, but not for use against Israel. They want them to deter Iranian domination of the Middle East.
At some point in the future Iraq is going to be a battlefield between the Arab states and the Iranians fighting for the future of the Middle East. I think when that day comes, the Arabs and Israelis will finally be able to live in peace and unite against a common foe.
Edited for explanation.
[edit on 31/12/08 by MikeboydUS]
Iran and the Persians need to step back. They do not lead the Middle East. They will not lead the Middle East. They are Persians. The Arabs don't want any part of that. For past centuries the Persians tried to conquer the Middle East and were driven back. Many Arab States fear an Iranian dominated Middle East. Its barely been one hundred years since Turkish domination ended. The Arab states do not want any foreign domination. At least the Jews are Semitic brothers. The Persians aren't even cousins.
They stick their nose too far into an endemic Semitic conflict and they will get it cut off. A number of Arab states already know the real war isn't the current mess with Israel, who stay in their little section of land. The real war is going to be the one in the future pushing the Persians back across the Tigris and Euphrates. The Gulf States know it, The Saudis know it, and Egypt knows it. A number of them want nuclear weapons, but not for use against Israel. They want them to deter Iranian domination of the Middle East.
At some point in the future Iraq is going to be a battlefield between the Arab states and the Iranians fighting for the future of the Middle East. I think when that day comes, the Arabs and Israelis will finally be able to live in peace and unite against a common foe.
Edited for explanation.
[edit on 31/12/08 by MikeboydUS]
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 11:32 AM by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by princeofpeace
Iran can't really do more than supply its proxy Hamas with smuggled weapons and do the same for Hisbollah. With Iran it's all talk. One bad move by them and the US, UK and Israel will take them out of the equation.
Iran can't really do more than supply its proxy Hamas with smuggled weapons and do the same for Hisbollah. With Iran it's all talk. One bad move by them and the US, UK and Israel will take them out of the equation.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 02:21 PM by Exv8densez
reply to post by ufoorbhunter
See, the problem with this kind of thinking is that you would never admit that it is a power thing because it would jeopardize your self-giving right to demonize the "enemy" Of course the strongest one always vent their superiority cause they foresee conquest over those they see as inferior(the wrong ones usually).
But you can't have it both ways. You can't demonize those terrorists as if they are more notorious while at the same time venting your superior capacity to wipe them all.
I don’t know, I like a fair fight, even I feel more courageous taking on bigger adversaries, oh well, maybe it’s just me.
See, the problem with this kind of thinking is that you would never admit that it is a power thing because it would jeopardize your self-giving right to demonize the "enemy" Of course the strongest one always vent their superiority cause they foresee conquest over those they see as inferior(the wrong ones usually).
But you can't have it both ways. You can't demonize those terrorists as if they are more notorious while at the same time venting your superior capacity to wipe them all.
I don’t know, I like a fair fight, even I feel more courageous taking on bigger adversaries, oh well, maybe it’s just me.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 02:27 PM by jam321
reply to post by on_yur_6
Is it Allah or the 72 Virgins?
Instead of enticing Arabs to go after Israel, Iran should be volunteering to keep Hamas in check so that a possible peace could be reached in the region.
Israelis couldn't ride a bus or go to market without worrying about some nut job wishing to go see Allah.
Is it Allah or the 72 Virgins?
Instead of enticing Arabs to go after Israel, Iran should be volunteering to keep Hamas in check so that a possible peace could be reached in the region.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 02:37 PM by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by Exv8densez
I was only being realistic. Iran is already on the ridge with its nuclear development. One false move now and it's goodbye Iran. Israel is in no mood for compromise, UK and USA have it surrounded on two land fronts and a third front in the Gulf with a naval armada that would make Nelson ask for shades.
I was only being realistic. Iran is already on the ridge with its nuclear development. One false move now and it's goodbye Iran. Israel is in no mood for compromise, UK and USA have it surrounded on two land fronts and a third front in the Gulf with a naval armada that would make Nelson ask for shades.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 03:38 PM by Bl0rg
Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by princeofpeace
Iran can't really do more than supply its proxy Hamas with smuggled weapons and do the same for Hisbollah. With Iran it's all talk. One bad move by them and the US, UK and Israel will take them out of the equation.
Hamas is a creation of Mossad not Iran.
US can't deal with Iraq which has no army, much less so with Iran which has a modern professional army and twice the population.
It will only be a matter of time before the Jews finance another "Monster" like Hitler to eliminate the ashkenazi.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 03:43 PM by jam321
reply to post by Bl0rg
Guess that depends on the President. If we had a president who had a pair of big ones, th US would drop MOABs 24/7 till Iran screams Uncle. Unfortunately, too many presidents are worried about polls to get the job done.
Like I said, instead of enticing, Iran should be talking directly to Israel to see how they can help find peace in the area.
US can't deal with Iraq which has no army, much less so with Iran which has a modern professional army and twice the population.
Guess that depends on the President. If we had a president who had a pair of big ones, th US would drop MOABs 24/7 till Iran screams Uncle. Unfortunately, too many presidents are worried about polls to get the job done.
Like I said, instead of enticing, Iran should be talking directly to Israel to see how they can help find peace in the area.
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