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Well I was hoping that Israel would take to the 48 hour cease fire, but alas.. their not going to, at least not anytime soon.I know that this is a
subject that reeks of "end time" stuff and we see now that Israel is unwilling to accept for the discontinuation of the campaign.Not saying that a
country should begin a war and all of the sudden just quit, but it would have been nice to see this happen at least for the innocents involved in this
ever escalating crisis.
news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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Israel is mad. I can't blame them. I hope this doesn't lead to their self-destruction. They need to take a chill-pill. Seriously.
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reply to post by Frankidealist35
Your right what are they trying to prove, I mean this david and golliath war is no good for anybody!
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reply to post by alyosha1981
I mean seriously. We've (when I say we I mean the US) already been through like how many wars? You'd think that other nations would take a hint
from us and stop fighting each other because they would see how violent war is.
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reply to post by alyosha1981
But didnt I see that Hamas was not going to go along with a cease fire? So if Hamas is not willing to meet Isreal halfway, then what is Isreal to do?
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reply to post by rangersdad
good point, but wouldn't the situation "calm" down if Israel were to have observed the 48 hour cease fire?
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"Let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor".
"Blood makes the grass grow, Kill, Kill, Kill"
"you took my last oreo, dieeee"
"Dont blame me, I was told to do it"
"Yea, I was just out, takin a walk, and bam, some guys head blew off and left a stain on my shirt"...
This is NOT a caring world people. It is survival of the fittest, not survival of whos right and wrong(Although it should be).
The Government and the military dont give a crap about bodies, they train their soldiers to do one thing, and one thing only..KILL!!!!
No matter if it is the USA, or any other country, its the same worldwide.
Their motto is "kill now, cry later".
Most of the time the people who are fighting, dont understand why or what they are fighting for, they just fight. Sure, they brief you on why you are
fighting the enemy, but they dont tell them the reasoning behind it, because it really doesnt matter. They just care that you do one thing right, and
thats to kill.
You can sit here all day long and cry and try to get people to understand where you are comming from, but in the end, nobody really gives a # what you
think. You are not the ones playing the game, you are meer spectators. Isreal and Pakistan have their own thing going right now, 50-60 years in the
making. Of course it is going to end up with us comming in with our stars and stripes to save the day, but so will the red flag,and all other major
flags, And theres nothing you can do about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So let em kill themselves, because I am sick of playing Dad. But no matter what, DAD gets involved one way or another, no matter how much he tries to
avoid it. This isof their own making, not ours. Where was everyone else when we needed their help? regardless of if we had the right or not to
fight(cause it doesnt really matter)? Where were our brothers and sisters at when we called on them to help us with our problems? i will tell you
where, NOWHERE! but us as Americans, the bleeding heart of the world, reach out to anyone and everyone we can, because thats our role, even if they
hate us. Punch America in the face, its ok, we will still love you. Laugh at us after 911, and burn our flag, its ok, we will still send you support
to help your people who got blown to pieces, because THATS HOW WE ROLL!!!
Final words from dad- Take everything they have thats good , and make em play nice before giving it back.
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I see nothing good coming out of this. This is like what happened over with how we reacted after 9-11 to Iraq. It seems like every other country is
now using a terrorist attack as an excuse to invade another nation, claiming the 9-11 clause. It makes me sick. It doesn't matter who does it. But
it just brings more violence and bloodshed to the world. I hope that the violence will end soon.
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this is just one against one, so don't worry to much.
we should get really worried if Hamas get's a helping hand, from Iran for example.
then it's two against one, and i think we can expect the USA will come out and help Isreal.
and then............ were screwed!
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reply to post by GondelleX
But we're so bogged down in Iraq right now. What makes you think we can support Israel right now? DO you think that we can create troops out of
thin air?
[edit on 31-12-2008 by Frankidealist35]
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reply to post by Frankidealist35
you've got a point there.
but maybe an early moving out of irak (war is pretty much lost there)
so they can finally begin on their new target, Iran!
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reply to post by GondelleX
Unfortunately we're committed to Iraq right now. We signed the SOFA agreement with them which requires us to keep our troops there for 3 more years
remember? The violence has been dying down and they want us to stay a little longer so we can defeat Al-quaeda there and they can implement their
government. Since they already have us committed I don't know where else we could get troops from. If we pulled out troops from Afghanistan that
would be a problem for them and we would lose a potential ally. So why don't we have someone else do the protection for us? Why can't Europe and
the UN do it? That's their job. Why doesn't the UN ever do what it's supposed to in a situation like this?
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reply to post by Frankidealist35
youre right about Afghanistan, to much to do there.
but wouldn't Iran be a great motivation to move out of irak?
maybe let the UN be stationed in irak for ''peacekeeping''.
or the UN or EU has to intervene in Isreal, but ''they'' don't like to send their precious ''peaceforce'' to a dirty war.
the learned from the WWII and don't want to spend that much money.
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reply to post by Frankidealist35
Good point, but I believe reservists that are currently stateside would probably be the first to be deployed to Israel if the U.S were to get
involved, although they could send combat divisions rotating back from Iraq as well. God I hope it dosen't get to that point.
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There are only about 140,000 troops in Iraq. We have 1 million troops with about another 200,000 comitted elsewhere. You do the math.
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Originally posted by rangersdad
reply to post by alyosha1981
But didnt I see that Hamas was not going to go along with a cease fire? So if Hamas is not willing to meet Isreal halfway, then what is Isreal to do?
Hamas wanted to discuss a cease fire and wanted the blockade of the Gaza strip lifted, it was Israel that rejected it.
I think it is also important to point out that Hamus stood by the cease fire even though there where unrealistic sanctions placed against them, lets
not to forget the 49 Palestinians killed during the ceasefire either.
All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.
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in watching some main stream news outlets---they're actually slanting some of the coverage--- actually saying israel is wrong and putting them in a
negative light
i can't believe it,,, usually israel can do no wrong, no matter what
i was a little shocked
god ,,, can't they give the PAls,, that little ass strip of land,,,,geez
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Then Hamas would take advantage and maybe even fire every rocket, missile at Isreal that they can....and Iran may even supply them with even more
powerful missiles to attack Isreal with.
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The solution is simple. Israel should take out an entire grid selected at random, for every rocket that comes into Israel.
Give the Gazans 72 hours to spread the word, and drop thousands of pamphlets to make sure everyone knows the deal.
For every rocket, an entire grid will be severely destroyed. Undone in such a manner, that there will be no identifying structure, component, or
edifice remaining to recall what previously existed.
Mark my word. It wouldn't take too many grids, and the shooting at Israel would stop!
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