reply to post by plejarenentity
but the most important one is the second world war where SIX MILLION children adults etc etc were stufed in carts and GASSED TO DEATH...
I should say that I have no doubt that this actually happened, yet I question the validity of the numbers. You seem to be so sure that all these
people reportedly killed in these camps were of Jewish background. What about the masses of disabled, homosexuals, mentally ill, political dissidents,
ect.? The "undesirables" as Hitler called them?
I find it hard to believe that while the Nazi's destroyed records of the camps prisoners, the Allies burried the dead in mass graves, and not to
mention the ones that were falsely labled to begin with, that the count is anywhere near accurate as to how many were actually Jewish. I have no doubt
that the Jewish communities were at the top of the Nazi's list and made up a large portion of the victims yet I have no faith in the account of the
dead as to who was who.
NOBODY DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT... NODBODY STEPPED IN, NOBODY LIFTED A FINGER TO HELP THE JEWISH PEOPLE!!!!
This is either a bold faced lie or you really have no knowledge of the truth. People risked and sometimes sacrificed the lives of them and their
families to help those that the Nazi's wanted to "get rid of."
Israel finally has its own legal state, finally for the first time in jewish history they have somewhere to live....
I think that I was correct when I said you haven't any knowldge of the truth in history. The Jewish religion
is undoubtedly what you meant to
say. There is no "Jewish people" as a race.
Let me give you
a little lesson this time around.
- Hebrews- "GOD'S chosen" (if you believe that mess) a.k.a. Semites which includes the Arabs of which Palestinians are
- 2. Jews- The followers of The Old Testament, which could be anyone. And is mostly peoples of European descent today and not Hebrew/Semite
- 3. Zionist's- A "Political" movement that resulted in the State of Israel
Now try reading a bit in the Old Testament and you will see that The "Hebrews/Semites" have inhabited that land before. Begining with Abraham and
continuing with his descendants. Of which the Arabs claim to be that of Ishmael Abraham's first born. See, "Hebrews" have always lived there not
Look around the middle east almost every country there hates israel, and would rip it apart like angry wolves if they could, its only because america
is on its side that israel has the `luck` of still surviving!
They do "hate" Israel and it's because the Israeli's pushed the original inhabitants off of their land. Granted, there are those that have
religious reasons at heart and I will not defend that at all, but it's not only because they are Jews in "their" mind. And I'm sorry but is't
that what Hitler did to the Jewish people of Europe? Pot calling the kettle black huh?
As to your comment about the U.S.A. helping Israel, I feel that The US should have never gotten involved with this mess. If Israel wants to be
sovereign they should handle their own affairs. We bankroll their military, how easy it is to snub your nose at your neighbors whilst you are backed
by the most powerful nation in the world!
I say they need to do it themselves, go cry to the UN, of apply for statehood and pay some damn taxes already. This is one of the main reasons why the
Muslim radicals hate the us (backing Israel). And we get nothing in return, where was the intel from the Mossad about 9/11? They couldn't fight along
side us in any conflict? The use of their troops abroad would make them too weak at home and they can't help our mission in Iraq of Afganistan for
obvious reasons. They're dead weight!
Dont give me the `eye for the eye` garbage... somebody punches you in the face, you punch them back
Yeah and then you move your car into their garage, take over their lawn, swimming pool, BBQ, just leave them thier bathrooms in order to relieve
themselves after they eat. Ooops, we took our neighbors fridge and kitchen too, they wont be needing the bathroom anymore. Tell you what I'll be a
good neighbor and take his whole house, but I'll leave him the basement to sleep in! Sounds like "an eye for an eye" to me! Oh, be sure to kick him
down the stairs when he comes up to scrounge some food from time to time, that'll teach him! Actually no, This sounds like Israel to me.
not what some guy working in a kebab shop says
I wanted to set one last thing straight. People have attributed so much death to the German people at the hands of Hitler and the Nazi's even so much
as to list the total casualties of WW2 as German guilt. I've even heard some 70Mil. stated as fact. When in fact the civilian total is what we are
talking about as example given by plejarenentity. But you will find that when you remove the tolls in the Pacific and ares that had no German armies
or such and The Axis Countries the toll is more like 16,518,300 (aside from the claimed Holocaust #'s) accourding to the numbers that I have found
and subtracted the affore mentioned deaths.
The practice of bolstering claims with large #'s and the "grand total" of civilian deaths smacks of Versailles and the end of WW1. Not to mention
the many cities that were bombed during the war by the Allies and undoubtedly killed countless civilians (not that the Germans didn't do the same)
that the world pawns off on Germany.
Or the fact that the Russians were slaughtering civilians as they pushed west, killed political dissidents, and Polish and German civilians. Yet this
all is laid upon Germany, unquestioned. Or the post war deaths in The USSR-26.6 mil., Romania- 460,000, Poland-2,723,000. deaths at the hands of the
Reds. So maybe, just maybe we don't know all that we think we do about the death totals and whom did what.
One more thing, I don't know why you repeatedly make referance to the Anti-semitic people? Am I to take it that you are of the mind frame that if a
person questions the actions of Israel they are automaticly a "Jew Hater?"