Well the South Tampa area just was hammered.

A) I counted 20 + planes in a very short period of time.
B) None were trackable (transponders off).
C) All were flying above an AFB.
D) Sounding data is not supportive (Low humidity) for "persistent contrail formation".
E) Miltary, Military Military.

I even was privy enough to catch a couple black guidelines. Just like the good ole days.

Additionally cover was turning into wave like formations suggesting some form of EM pulse/energy.

I can only imagine what they are up to. Odds are no good as usual.

We got sprayed a fair bit on the first of the year. They ruined a perfectly sunny day. Got to see an orb of light again. Looks like an energy thing to me too.

Like I expected as soon as the rain stopped the spraying started.

I spotted Chemtrail activity from November 2nd-December 16th in Niagara Falls, Canada. I only started paying attention on the 2nd. They appeared pretty much every day when I was looking. We didn't get too many sunny days during that period.

Chemtrail free for almost a month!

Air has not been humid enough across the UK for any 'chemtrails' so far this year - just been the occasional short lived contrail.

Did manage to capture this trans-atlantic jet leaving a nice pink trail at sunset on the 3rd though

I have a really good family friend who was a captain for Continental for over 20 years. He told me that if it is commercial airliners that are leaving these chemtrails, then the pilots are doing it without knowing it. Now he didnt rule out that commercial airliners were spraying chemtrails but he did say that if they were then the chemicals were probably a fuel additive or that the sprayers were controlled from elsewhere.


Anyone who says these trails are contrails, obviously isn't very informed. A contrail lasts seconds usually less than a minute. A contrail does NOT stay for hours and spread out across the sky. They just do not.

Coming from a long line of pilots, my family has been staring into the great blue sky for a while. Only recently have we been noticing these trails. The properties of contrails didn't suddenly change. These are obviously man made occurances.

Originally posted by leisuredrummer
I have a really good family friend who was a captain for Continental for over 20 years. He told me that if it is commercial airliners that are leaving these chemtrails, then the pilots are doing it without knowing it. Now he didnt rule out that commercial airliners were spraying chemtrails but he did say that if they were then the chemicals were probably a fuel additive or that the sprayers were controlled from elsewhere.

Anyone who says these trails are contrails, obviously isn't very informed. A contrail lasts seconds usually less than a minute. A contrail does NOT stay for hours and spread out across the sky. They just do not.

Coming from a long line of pilots, my family has been staring into the great blue sky for a while. Only recently have we been noticing these trails. The properties of contrails didn't suddenly change. These are obviously man made occurances.

Nice to see a voice of reason here besides utmostbastard!

I started this thread and thought it was dead after the 1st. Just happened to notice it under recent posts.

I CANNOT BELIEVE there are people here who think chemtrails are contrails!

-Chemtrails are observed in all weather conditions, not just cold weather. Even during warm upper atmospheric jet streams. So those who are talking about its cold here or there... do the research. (Its simply not weather dependent).

-Perhaps they are not old enough to remember what contrails looked like before the late 80's? (there were no "persistent contrails")

-Did the fuel change? (nope)

-Did the laws of physics change since then? (I don't think so)

- Is there ANY other explanation for barium and aluminum in the fallout? (barium is a by-product of the petroleum industry)

On a practical level, it would be nearly impossible for commercial airlines to be involved in this due to the sheer magnitude of the material released in each flight (it would have to resemble a fuel tanker or actually be a modified fuel tanker).

Commercial airliners MIGHT be involved (unbeknown to the crews) insofar as a "catalyst" being expelled in the exhaust as a result of some specialized fuel additive. The catalyst would "activate' materials sprayed at higher altitudes reserved for military aircraft.

Lastly, why spray? I lean towards an advanced over-the-horizon radar system. Essentially making the atmosphere better propagate radar energy.

Next best idea? Instead of radar, it may be enhancing the atmosphere for the propagation of HAARP emissions. Just do a free patent search at uspto.gov There are a variety of patents, many by our largest defense contractors supporting this theory. Some say that the EM spectrum is a new battleground that Russia and the US have never stopped fighting over despite the end of the cold war.

Next, weather control of course. Just do a free patent search at uspto.gov There are a variety of patents on this one too. Look it up.

Last one, and this is a stretch. Let's say our government considers it such a matter of national security that the health risks are worth it... to detect stealth aircraft (or, say... UFO's). if you could particulate the atmosphere with an "active medium" to create an effect like when you put ink in a fish tank. Even if you cannot get a reflection off of a target bogey, you are alerted to anomalies in the motion of the particulate (like a disturbance of the ink in the water of the fish tank).

Well, from the person who started the thread but has not seen this in weeks, thank you all for contributing. Don't worry about the nay sayers here and elsewhere. The best place to hide things from people is right in front of (or above) them.


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