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Originally posted by Deharg
Please Please Melatonin explain to our young hot heads the lack of a link and or difference between Eutrophication of Canadian and Scandinavian lakes and CO2 production please.
I really appreciate you factual contributions, I agree with your facts however not the causes of them (sorry).
SO2 and CO production in the 70's were being blamed for melting sandstone statues in Gothenburg. That if I remember was one of the main reasons for introducing catalytic converters (not a monopoly on the cadmium catalysed process of course) in a mesure to reduce Co by producing CO2.
Please help with one of your super posts please.
Originally posted by Long Lance
reply to post by melatonin
nah, let's just say that cooking your dislodged and canned coral specimen or dissolving in soda (aka acidification) is probably not representative.
with people who are known not to do as they preach[/url], but it would be a start, wouldn't it?
the problem as i see it is that you're more than willing to equate local phenomena with global
Originally posted by mcguyvermanolo
I got it, let's put a thermometer on the Sun!
30,000 Scientists in a class action suit filed by the Weather Channel founder, John Coleman against Al Gore refute "Man Made Global Warming" because it is clearly a cycle of the Sun.
Originally posted by mcguyvermanolo
A thousand years ago, Vikings colonized and named "Greenland", which later became a gigantic Glacier and permafrost.
Originally posted by mcguyvermanolo
I don't like the idea of being taxed for air under very false pretenses, maybe you do.
Originally posted by mcguyvermanolo
You want to reduce CO2 Emissions? Stop the felling of old forest trees, like in the Amazon and in the Sudan, and start planting trees and Industrial Hemp everywhere. Hemp is the most bio efficient crop there ever was, and it's outlawed?!? You get higher from a bakery role sprinkled with poppy seeds...
Originally posted by mcguyvermanolo
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Plant life takes in CO2 during the day and releases O2 at night, duh!
Originally posted by mcguyvermanolo
I got it, let's put a thermometer on the Sun!
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A thousand years ago, Vikings colonized and named "Greenland", which later became a gigantic Glacier and permafrost.
Here is a graph comparing sunspot activity, CO2 concentrations, and global temperatures. It clearly shows that there is a greater correlation b/w CO2 concentrations and global temperatures.
There's SIX reason's that there ""only looked" to be poor correlation between Sunspot activity and global temperatures,[1] The graph is not corrected for the urban heat island effect in the top section,[2] The effect that the "sunspot length" has is not included,See Fig. 4.[3]The the sun's barycentric oscillations are not included,[4] Thermal increase due to geomagnetic interaction between the Sun and Earth magnetic fields are not included.[5] Energetic flares increase the Sun's ultraviolet radiation by at least 16 percent.[6]The total magnetic flux leaving the Sun, dragged out by the solar wind, has risen by a factor of 2.3 since 1901 (Lockwood et al., 1999)
New Little Ice Age
Instead of Global Warming?
www.schulphysik.de...
Figure 1. Temperature and CO2 levels over 600 million years
Note that, as the graph shows, carbon dioxide levels don’t have that much correlation with temperature
www.paulmacrae.com...
No feedback.
www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be...
A look at a longer time period of Co2,So much for the lie of pre-industrial levels!
www.biokurs.de...
Originally posted by GenRadek
An update for the North Pole Ice:
Back to 1979 levels!
www.dailytech.com...
Now as to what this means for the AGW folks who predicted no ice this year.... well.
Just goes to show how even the so called "professionals" can miss this.
Oh and I don't know if anyone has been paying attention to the news but apparently 2008 has been a very cool year. And also apparently, the decade so far from 2000-2008 has been cooler than the 90s.
So should we all now jump back to global cooling as it was all the rage by the scientists during the 70s?
Which is exactly why i don't fall for junk science on AGW.
“So let me get this straight. To you, a rise in temperature that allows the spread of the malaria carrying mosquito thus enabling a rise in infections, "does not pass the logic test." However, somehow, using toxic DDT which has extreme adverse affects on bird populations seems more logical? Dude, get a grip. "
Did you happen to notice that the OP's post indicated a rise in malaria infections in Italy and not in America? It seems to me like you AGW debunkers are just grasping at straws and looking for anything that supports your debunking, whether it makes sense or not.
Why is this such a hard concept for you to grasp? I mean, I give you kudos for at least admitting that the earth is getting warmer (much better than some on this site). However, denying the impact of increased CO2 production is naive at best. Again lets look at the FACTS. 1. The earth is getting warmer. 2. Humans are creating greater CO2 concentrations than we know to have ever existed in the last 650,00 years. (and expect the concentration to more than double in the next few decades) 3. Scientists have proven a direct correlation between CO2 concentrations and global temperature. 4. Thus when we (mankind) produces alarming levels of CO2, we (mankind) will be creating global warming. I mean, do you have to be a rocket scientist to see the connection?
WE SAY: Temperature and C02 are bound together. When one goes up, the other will follow. In prehistory temperatures often started rising 800 years before levels of the gas, and Gore evades this point. But it is irrelevant to what is happening now, because for the first time ever enormous amounts of extra C02 are being released.
I have done my best in this tread and others like it to dispel the myth of the medieval warming period. This period is also known as the Little Climactic Optimum. The problem with the idea of the MWP is that it only takes into account temperature records present in Europe. You see, when determining global temperature levels it is necessary to use temperature data from many sources on the planet. Essentially, the data set is too small to make any conclusions. However, luckily scientists do have a more accurate prediction about the global temperature during medieval times. By taking ice core readings and doing tree ring studies on a global scale, we know that the global temperature during medieval times were comparable to those present in the early to mid 20th century and thus, less than they are today. Essentially, the idea of a medieval warming period is a FARCE and should not be believed.
Originally posted by Marmota monax ::Mars is warming too, as is Pluto, yet to date, no humans have been found at these locations ::
::This idea is quite controversial and has little data to support it. Again here, given that we have only recently had the ability to gauge the temperature of other planets in our solar system and lack an ability to gauge historical temperatures, we really have no idea about the cyclical nature of their temperatures (unlike our own planet)::