No-bailout Movement Emerges at RNC

I think it's time to revive interest in the subject of "Consolidated Annual Financial Reports" --- "Government" owns about 80% of all business corporations in the USA. (And we know who owns the government (not us)) All the planks of Communism are already in place in the USA.

cafr1.com...

You find some duplications in content among the videos and interviews but
cafr1.com... is a good starting place. The first have regurgitates how he discovered this stuff and then goes into Q&A.

Great responses and a lot to think about.

I do have some disgust that these same people backed George Bush whatever he said, and now that he's so unpopular, they're acting like they have been against growing government, when they obviously have voted for it all along. Where were they when Bush was stomping all over the Constitution? It's looking like they want to break away from the "Republican party" so they can get the people's votes back. And I'm not really interested in being led around by the nose because someone wants my vote.

Originally posted by Cio88
Buyers Remorse?

Not for me. I know you want Obama supporters to regret voting for him, but he's going to have to eat a baby on film before that happens for a lot of people. And he's going to have to really screw up for me to turn against him. And even then, I probably wouldn't regret voting for the person who I thought was the best for the job. So, you can stop hoping for this "buyers remorse" you keep bringing up. At least where I am concerned.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Let see how far this obvious "act of courage will go" either many of this politicians can not ignore the public pleas anymore or they are getting enough cojones now that we have a "new President elect" to do this.

Even when we know that the only way Obama will be able to run the government is borrowing us into oblivion this have to stop.

The jobs Obama is planing with another catastrophic bail out will be lost within the wave of job loses that are expected next year as the economic downfall keep taking it toll.

We need the nation to sink and like the Phoenix to rebuild from the ashes.

We can do it all in our own without another bail out and borrowing from foreign nations.

We need to target the root of the problem, the WTO, GLOBALIZATION and NAFTA.

We need to reverse the policies that are to enrich the wealthy and stop giving away tax payer money for spa retrieve in California.

Either our politicians are starting to see that the Americans are reaching that point of boiling over and revolt or they actually are seen the light.

But I will hold my breath until it happens

Too little too late for the GOP in my eyes. This is exactly the kind of talk they had when the democrats were in office during the Clinton years. Not this specific issue, but it was "back to the roots" all during the Clinton years. GWB gets into office and does - NONE OF IT.

The GOP has complete control and did they get rid of a single program? No. Did they change any of the things Clinton did? No.

All they did was expand it.

After what the GOP did for Ron Paul, I have nothing for them. I will not support them. If they think they can blow smoke up my rear with symbolic and meaningless things like this, they are mistaken.

Sure, I'd love to believe it was the Ron Paul effect. Maybe it is. But I will not vote for or support a single republican who was not in step with Ron Paul the entire time. They have shown their true colors - SEE YA as far as I am concerned.

So now the GOP is down and out and so they start talking about republicans again since they lost power.

Even an eastern european politician calls the bailouts 'old socialism'.

www.bloomberg.com...

Vaclav Klaus - "A 67-year-old economist who helped build the Czechs’ post- communist democracy, Klaus has likened bank bailouts to “old socialism,” slammed the Lisbon Treaty as “contradicting Czech sovereignty” and called environmental issues a “luxury.”"...."an admirer of Milton Friedman and Margaret Thatcher, says “excessive state intervention” and “irresponsible increases of state expenditures” are behind the global financial crisis"

Sounds like citizens of the Czech republic have more freedom than us Americans.

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Originally posted by badmedia
So now the GOP is down and out and so they start talking about republicans again since they lost power.

I totally understand this position and I guess maybe I'm not as cynical (more naive, hopeful, trustful?) as some others here. It's not that I blindly believe them, I'm just willing to take a "wait and see" approach. Same with Obama. The proof is in the pudding. Let's see them put their money where their mouth is... and other such figures of speech.

I just don't remember the GOP standing up, promising to "change" and then blowing it. That's not to say it didn't happen, I just wasn't watching as closely as I am now. But, the way they kissed Bush's bottom throughout the past 8 years does not give me much hope.

After the bogus Contract with America that Republicans touted in their rise to power, who will believe them this time?

To little to late? Where were these guys in October? Hell where have these guys been the past 8 years? I dont buy this "We didnt change Washington Washington changed us but now we are ready to change back." crap. You had your change. You failed. Democrats had their chance in the 90s and they failed. This is another step in the divide and conquer campaign of the two party cabal sitting in Washington. DO NOT BUY INTO IT! Vote 3rd party or vote anyone connected to Ron Paul or Peter Schiff in. They are the only sane ones right now.

Edit to add until I see Republicans ready to bring ALL of our troops home from ALL of the countries out there Im not buying it. Until they realize we cannot afford to police the world anymore they will not get my support. Until they quit giving billions to terrorist states like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Israel they will not get my support. Until they are ready to get rid of the Nanny State they will not get my support. Last but not least until they are ready to get rid of the police state they will NOT get my support.

[edit on 30-12-2008 by tjeffersonsghost]

It's good to see the Republican Party standing for something beside making the rich richer and "trickle down" economics. Their "no bailout" stance is something that hopefully can become a point of honest debate among those who care enough about economic matters to learn something about them. I never thought I'd say this, but I halfway agree with them.

Notice I said "halfway." Their position in many ways reminds me of Hebert Hoover's at the beginning of the Great Depression. He believed in saving-- personal and governmental--instead of putting money into the economy. That actually took more money out of circulation and deepend the depression. The tent cities that sprung up when people lost their homes were called "Hoovervilles."

While I'm for trying a huge economic stimulus along the lines of FDR's, I am against the way it has been done so far. Although the automakers have been subjected to rigorous oversight for their comparatively meagre bailout(the CEO's have given up their corporate jets and agreed to work for $1 a year), the same cannot be said for the banks and AIG, who have received a much bigger slice of the pie. They have received virtually no oversight, their CEO's are still making millions and AIG is even paying its shareholders. That's just a continuation of the Bush policy of letting Wall Street do anything it likes.

So what we have with the Wall Street bailout is in effect private profits and socialized losses. It's a win-win situation for Wall Street but only a "maybe this will work" for Main Street. It's not real socialism but it's not pure capitalism either. It's the worst of both.

At least this is something I can have an honest debate with conservatives about.

A resolution? Bah. That's just as bad as a sign out in front of his ranch house saying "I'm a BAD boy!". Are they going to hold him financially responsible? Is he going to jail? Is he and his cronies going to be paying ANY restitution to the American people?

HELL NO!

So.... unless that happens, I see this 'resolution' as nothing more than "let's save our own tails" gesture, full of nothing but hot air.

Why couldn't that Iranian reporter have been a woman wearing spike heels and had better aim.....

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Sounds like the Republican party is staging a revolution. I've got to say, I don't see this as a bad thing for the party. Breaking away from the increase in government that Bush has been supporting is a positive change.

IMO they don't care about spending the money. They don't want to help the auto industry because it's one of the biggest organized labor movements in the country. They want to bury them.

it still makes me mad,,, during the repub primaries,,,,the crowd,, the other candidates,, and even the moderators joked and laughed at ron paul like he was crazy and a kook ,, nutcase

yet everything he said,,, that


they laughed and chuckled at has happened just as he said


i would love to track every stinking single one of them down and ask them who's laughing now and force them to admit he was right and how stupid they look now


if only all this crap happened 6-8 months earlier more americans could have awakened and see how screwed up gov't is,,, and the very foundations we use are crooked and rigged

[edit on 31-12-2008 by shortywarn]