Who Would Jesus Side With?

I came across the Iranian leader message of Christmas:
iraqwar.mirror-world.ru...

He basically says that Jesus would be on Iran's side to fight the West.
I also recently found out that Jesus actually appears in the Kuran and muslims too await his return.

So what do you think when/if Jesus does come back. I honestly think that he wont be taking sides, only help those who deserve to be saved and let the tyrans suffer their fate.

Neither. You don't fight evil by becoming the same evil you are against. All you do is add to the evil, not take away from the evil. If you take up evil and defeat another evil, it is because you were the greater evil. The winner of a war always ends up being the greater evil.

Originally posted by badmedia
Neither. You don't fight evil by becoming the same evil you are against. All you do is add to the evil, not take away from the evil. If you take up evil and defeat another evil, it is because you were the greater evil. The winner of a war always ends up being the greater evil.

so every time a policeman arrests a criminal, he is the greater evil?

jesus would side with god´s kingdom just like he did in the past. of course that would mean the end of civilization as we know it

Originally posted by miriam0566
so every time a policeman arrests a criminal, he is the greater evil?

jesus would side with god´s kingdom just like he did in the past. of course that would mean the end of civilization as we know it

Arresting a criminal, and 2 forces of control fighting against each other over control are 2 different things.

It is ok to defend yourself, it is not ok to go around attacking people. It is better to let the criminal go free, than to punish millions of people trying to get the criminal.

While you can point fingers back and forth about who is doing which, in truth both sides want and look for the same things, and if either side was in the others position would carry the exact same positions. Because they are hypocrites.

Jesus would be on the side of Peace

Gandhi would side with peace

MLK would side with peace

Buddha would side with peace



something we should all strive to do.

[edit on 12/29/2008 by TONE23]

[edit on 12/29/2008 by TONE23]

Originally posted by miriam0566

Originally posted by badmedia
Neither. You don't fight evil by becoming the same evil you are against. All you do is add to the evil, not take away from the evil. If you take up evil and defeat another evil, it is because you were the greater evil. The winner of a war always ends up being the greater evil.

so every time a policeman arrests a criminal, he is the greater evil?

jesus would side with god´s kingdom just like he did in the past. of course that would mean the end of civilization as we know it

You make a good point.

Tradition says the Son of God will come "as in the days of Noah". Interpreted, the earth is a symbol of the entire universe of space time and form...what Jesus calls "this world". The world is an illusion that is washed away by reality. Reality is something that "returns" because it is something fogotten and to be remembered. As it is remembered, illusion [the world] is washed out of one's mind, and all that is left is the "Kingdom of God". This is the true meaning of baptism, which is the washing of one's mind with words of truth, as one identifies with Christ.

The world is a dream in the mind of Christ. It is full of conflict because it conflicts with reality. Reality is another word for Christ, Son of God, or, Kingdom of God. "The universe" has no place in Reality but to be completely washed away in true baptism. The world is not washed away for all at once. It is washed away one at a time, as each one lets one's mind be washed "clean". As each is cleansed, the Son of God returns to memory and is seen optically through mental filters at first. After this Reality is seen as it is, without interference of perceptual filters. This is the true meaning of the "rapture" in which two women could be grinding wheat..."one is taken and the other remaining". It simply means that by vigilance to the truth, we wash our minds, and when our minds are empty of false, the truth returns suddenly, "in the twinkling of an eye". It's possible to vanish. But it is also possible the body will live out the last bits of its pre-scripted destiny, but as a symbol of reality instead. In this way, gradually over time, the whole world is washed from the mind of Christ, and so will "pass away".

In the gospel of Thomas, Jesus says, "Be passerby". That should be anyone's attitude toward any war, especially wars fought in Jesus' name. These are temptations to "judge" which is to make real what is not true. If the world is made "real", it cannot be washed away from your mind because there is still a wish that it be real. And what one wishes to be true cannot be taken away from them. It must be given up, and let go without a sense of sacrifice...as if it were nothing...because it is nothing. The world is an insignificant dream. It cannot hurt the one who lets it go.

Christ!

[edit on 9-1-2009 by Christ!]

May I remind you guys that this is NOT the kingdom of Jesus? That the kingdom of Jesus is not of this earth?

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

I'll say it again, he would side with neither. Because neither of their actions are those from the kingdom of heaven.

[edit on 10-1-2009 by badmedia]

If he was real...
He would either side with peace OR
Against America and it's materialism. Right?

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
If he was real...
He would either side with peace OR
Against America and it's materialism. Right?

Jesus was as real as any of us. We are not real. We are symbols of ideas...thoughts, in a mind swamped in deception and denial...mainly Self-denial. Some of the symbols give themselves to pointing to the truth of us. The truth of us is one Self that knows nothing of symbols. Peace is established by siding with the Self that knows no symbols of itself. Otherwise, there remains a conflict of mind...conflicted between true and false. A mind that wants both true and false to be the truth will be in conflict with itself. Side only with truth with persistence, and peace will come.

The truth is there has never been a person.
There has only been the thought of persons, and the thought of persons is not real because it is not of the "Kingdom" Jesus spoke of as "not of this world".
Every thought that comes from the mind of the "person" is misperception.
The belief that you are a person is the greatest misperception of all.
There are no materials or "matter" in the "Kingdom", which is of Spirit.
So, the belief that there is an America is materialistic.

One will act as he believes. If he believes he is a person in America, he will fight for his *freedom* to believe what is not true.

Christ!

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
If he was real...
He would either side with peace OR
Against America and it's materialism. Right?

Jesus was as real as any of us. We are not real. We are symbols of ideas...thoughts, in a mind swamped in deception and denial...mainly Self-denial. Some of the symbols give themselves to pointing to the truth of us. The truth of us is one Self that knows nothing of symbols. Peace is established by siding with the Self that knows no symbols of itself. Otherwise, there remains a conflict of mind...conflicted between true and false. A mind that wants both true and false to be the truth will be in conflict with itself. Side only with truth with persistence, and peace will come.

The truth is there has never been a person.
There has only been the thought of persons, and the thought of persons is not real because it is not of the "Kingdom" Jesus spoke of as "not of this world".
Every thought that comes from the mind of the "person" is misperception.
The belief that you are a person is the greatest misperception of all.
There are no materials or "matter" in the "Kingdom", which is of Spirit.
So, the belief that there is an America is materialistic.

One will act as he believes. If he believes he is a person in America, he will fight for his *freedom* to believe what is not true. Fighting is a tool of magic which validates the existence of what does not exist. For example, elves fighting for the existence of elves. Elves do not exist, but if they fight, they may seem to exist. Fighting is like life-blood for the self-decieved. After a fight, what stands is "true" while the buried are "false". And history willl be written by the victor.

Christ!

[edit on 10-1-2009 by Christ!]