Great video explaining where America is headed

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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Lay out the basic forms of government and what they mean. Around the 9 minute mark is where it pretty much sums up where America is right now.

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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 07:51 PM
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I was not going to watch the video, but since it was short I figured I would check it out.

It really sums up basically the whole world in 10 min. I was really glad I watched it.
Flag and star for you for this one.
Deserves a watch.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:18 PM
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I like it! I remember I was always confused in school when they were trying to tell us Nazi's were extreme right and that's why we didn't want to be over there...



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:48 PM
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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 09:59 PM
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Something that video really goes out it's way to say about Anarchy

Anarchists are those who advocate the absence of the state, arguing that common sense would allow for people to come together in agreement to form a functional society allowing for the participants to freely develop their own sense of morality, ethics or principled behaviour. The rise of anarchism as a philosophical movement occurred in the mid 19th century, with its idea of freedom as being based upon political and economic self-rule. This occurred alongside the rise of the nation-state and large-scale industrial capitalism, and the corruption that came with their successes.
Although anarchists share a rejection of the state, they differ about economic arrangements and possible rules that would prevail in a stateless society, ranging from complete common ownership and distribution according to need, to supporters of private property and free market competition. For example, most forms of anarchism, such as that of anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, or anarcho-primitivism not only seek rejection of the state, but also other systems which they perceive as authoritarian, which includes capitalism, wage labor, and private property. In opposition, a political philosophy known as anarcho-capitalism argues that a society without a state is a free market capitalist system that is voluntarist in nature.
The word "anarchy" is often used by non-anarchists as a pejorative term, intended to connote a lack of control and a negatively chaotic environment. Because of this, some activists have self-identified as libertarian socialists. In more recent times anti-authoritarian has offered another similar self-identification. However, anarchists still argue that anarchy does not imply nihilism, anomie, or the total absence of rules, but rather an anti-authoritarian society that is based on the spontaneous order of free individuals in autonomous communities, operating on principles of mutual aid, voluntary association, and direct action.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by macgyver
Lay out the basic forms of government and what they mean. Around the 9 minute mark is where it pretty much sums up where America is right now.

Click here to see video


Thank you, Thank you, thank you for posting this! Star and flag for you.

This is absolutely the greatest video I have ever seen! It says everything I have been saying now for years and even expands upon my commentary very nicely.

Now if only the mind numb zombies who make up the electorate in this country would learn this video by heart and apply it in their daily lives we could get the country back on track. Unfortunately, it's going to take a civil war to reduce the number of "democrats" in the country to effect a change for the better.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 10:27 PM
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Everyone should watch this video! Nice Post! It sure does sound familiar.

Star and Flagged.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:15 PM
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This is both concise and well researched, eliminating the fluff to just deliver the meat. I have to agree that a slow transition is underway in the US because, like stated in the video, the US citizens are no different that the early Roman citizens. We have set ourselves on such a high pedestal that few know now or remember the once ways that created these very freedoms we take for granted. The people have become lazy and must now rely heavily on the government for basic needs. The more the government hands out, the more people are willing to part with freedoms to gain the spoiling caress of the government they so cherish.

When will the revolution come? When the people have seen the last of their basic freedoms consumed by a police state nation, ruled not by the law, but by the few who would translate the law, bastardizing her meaning for their own gains. Only then will the harbors run brown with tea and the lands be washed clean with the blood of the corrupt and of the righteous.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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A pretty good video, but there are some glaring errors.

Communism is supposed to be a society without a government, where people come together voluntarily to share in the exchange of goods.

A republic is a form of a democracy. The U.S. is not a true democracy or a true republic. The U.S. is not ran by a Prime Minister, it is headed by a popularly elected president. Jefferson called our nation a democratic republic.

Hitler did not take over Germany after Germany became an anarchy. That is not how it happened. Neither was Ceasars rise to power in Rome historically correct. There are clear discrepancies here.

What makes the U.S. government successful is a balance of powers. When the balance of power is thrown off, that is when our country is in the most danger. Ike had is right, beware of the rise of the military industrial complex. Ceasar was a general.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:35 PM
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Lol, that is the first time that I ever saw Fascism and Nazism at the extreme left of the political spectrum. But then I wouldn’t expect to be properly educated about politics on a site called wimp.com. I always thought politics was a circle and both left and right met at the same extremes. Anarchy can be left or right. But I have noticed over the last decade that historical definitions have been rewritten by allsorts on the internet to suit the current situation. Politics always seems to be a vicious circle and most laws eventually get corrupted by those in power who have forgotten important historical lessons. And who defines the laws in this utopian Republic? It always seems to be an elite group that is determined to keep the status quo at all costs, whether they lean left or right. Be it through military, religious or commercial systems of control; all of which have been established by this elite long before America was even imagined. There was also no mention of corporations controlling the government as seems to be the current situation in America.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 12:02 AM
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Great video! I sent it to all my friends, it's a definate must-watch that's easy to understand. Starred and flagged.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 12:41 AM
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Therein lies the problem. Eventually somebody or a group will disagree with another group. They will feel entitled to dictate both the rules and the terms. It's called human nature and it's why we are foul beings that can only trust each other for so long. There will always be envy and greed. With that comes the hunger for dominance.

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posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 01:27 AM
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Starred and Flagged OP! Maybe this video will help explain to the left why:

Democracy=Democrats
Republics=Republicans

Which one of those was a natural progression to a NWO run by an Elitists few again?


The way things are going with both parties though, I think this "progression" and our choice of "Parties" is just a matter of how fast we get there.

This video did nothing but enforce my belief that Conservatism is more important to our fate as an American people than ever!



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 01:34 AM
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yes, a republic is argueably one of the best forms of govt

but it has some major glaring weaknesses

like that part where if you have tons of $$$, you can pay off elected officials to do things your way

thats the part that pretty much ruined the republic

when it became a Corporate Repiblic (we elect people to represent the corporations in congress lol)



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 01:46 AM
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In all honesty, it really isn't a weakness of a republic it is just a weakness in human nature.

People will always be corrupt and greedy and all those things. I just think that the founding fathers having never started their own country and having to compromise on certain things left the constitution to open and too many loop holes for crafty lawyers to legislate their way around the confines of the constitution.

It is still one of the greatest documents ever written, but now I think if a revolution were to happen and the constitutional American's win then the constitution will be like a Super-max prison when it comes to government powers. As in the Constitution will give no authority for the federal government to change laws and make policies, it will be completely up to the states for that they way it was intended.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 01:51 AM
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I see your point here too! These bailouts are total BULL. These failing banks should be allowed to fail, so other smaller, more responsible banks could rise to take their place. As for Chrysler and GM, to hell with them too (Ford didn't take their bailout money--maybe we should buy Fords...). Maybe they need to make a product the people actually want at a price people are willing to pay. They are massively over-regulated by big Government. Same with the banks that are failing. More Government Regulations telling them to "loosen" their lending standards so more people can get into ownership of property.

What little confidence I had in John McCain went TOTALLY down the tubes the day that senile panderer supported the first "bailouts". We need a President who promises SMALLER GOVERNMENT and delivers. Instead, most American Politicians are sucking off of each others' constituents teets!

[edit on 29-12-2008 by CreeWolf]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:44 AM
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What a mind blowing video! Flag and a star for you.

This just put everything in the right perspective for me. I never liked the state of government and this "democracy" we have. So I went to Anarchism for answers, but sadly they weren't there and the whole idea didn't sound quite right. But a Republic - "Power to the Law". That's genius. The challenge with this is to give the Republic the ability to self-preserve itself from corruption and most of all - humans.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 04:23 AM
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wow, what a beautiful piece of propaganda for the republican party. Everytime they speak of republic or the word republic(which our mind jumps to republican automatical), why do I hear church music, and angel trumpets in the backround? Comeon, music tactics to gain the proper emotions your "trying to get, stretching it a bit.

This is a clever piece of film (propaganda, imo), but anyone who can see the tactics being used here, too many to list, should be able to shrug this off as fantasy land BS,

Well, whether or not We have a democratic presidemt, or a republican, we still live in the same republic/democracy. All the same laws, the judicial system does not change.

The mudslinging btween patries you see on tv is for you the viewer, it's all staged.

The figure head president is nothing a smiling, and sympathetic face, to tell you bad news.

There is alot to tell as well. This so called "Republic" has us heading into poverty, debt on a huge scale, war for profit. If there isn't one we know how to make them. But the figure head has to sell it. JFK being a man,with morals didn't and look what happened to him.

Bush went along with it, and looked like the cat that swallowed the canary.

I'll agree this republic was going fine until recently, and when I say recently I mean 1960's Vietnam, ect.

This can not be blamed on one party either.

But this is a gem of a film for all the republicans to say yes, republic, thats what works so a republican should be the president (figurehead). Makes no difference, we still are, and always have been a republic since Ben Franklin told that lady. It held up for a while, but look where we are now.

We are here mainly because of power hungry, greedy, lying republicans lie Bush/Cheney. Bush single handedly went along with a plan that pretty much set America back a half dozen decades.

Why wasn't the banking brought up in this film, and deficit. That's easy enough because this supposed replublic screwed it, BIGTIME. Yes I can make a make a movie, and tell you all the good about someone or something, leave out all the bad, and have the majority thinking well, he/she wasn't that bad. Or this form of government really wasn't bad ect. This is straight in your face Propoganda.

In conclusion: It's so ironic that the surviving two forms of government they widdle it down to, is Oligarcgy, what WE have on a massive scale, and a false republic.

I would liken the American government nowadats as a worldwide Oligarchy cabal. In which party does not matter, only power for all in the American Oligarchy, replucans and democrats alike



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posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 06:03 AM
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Thanks for the very good video. It is very enlightening and speaks the truth. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say here now.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 06:33 AM
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good story, but i can not help but feel that this is an attempt to turn some democrats into republicans. i.e. Why do you think we have a new President every 4 years? To balance the switch from republican to democrat.

This video almost makes it seem that if you become a democrat, and you let dems take office, your never going to be able to regain the republic that it was general y built on.

also, back then, we were in a different era where dems did not work out so well, because not everyone was educated, i think in todays world. This is much more feasible.





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