Whats going on at yellowstone?

Another quake not far from Rush Lake.

M 3.4 - 11km N of Old Faithful Geyser, Wyoming
DYFI? - III
Time
2013-09-15 11:10:19 UTC
2013-09-15 05:10:19 -06:00 at epicenter
Location
44.564°N 110.822°W
Depth
10.60 km (6.59 mi)


And another one.

M 2.6 - 10km N of Old Faithful Geyser, Wyoming
Time
2013-09-15 11:13:15 UTC
2013-09-15 05:13:15 -06:00 at epicenter
Location
44.555°N 110.830°W
Depth
10.70 km (6.65 mi)


And another one.

M 2.7 - 11km N of Old Faithful Geyser, Wyoming
Time
2013-09-15 11:17:30 UTC
2013-09-15 05:17:30 -06:00 at epicenter
Location
44.567°N 110.820°W
Depth
10.40 km (6.46 mi)

Double post. Wish it was a way of deleting my own posting.

More quakes by Rush Lake

M 3.6 - 10km N of Old Faithful Geyser, Wyoming
ShakeMap - IIIDYFI? - III
Time
2013-09-15 15:53:02 UTC
2013-09-15 09:53:02 -06:00 at epicenter
Location
44.559°N 110.830°W
Depth
10.60 km (6.59 mi)

So far today, this is the quakes:

2.5 2013/09/15 11:07:13 44.564N 110.822W 7.6 25 km (16 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.2 2013/09/15 11:06:42 44.568N 110.811W 8.3 26 km (16 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.6 2013/09/15 09:53:02 44.559N 110.830W 10.6 25 km (15 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.7 2013/09/15 05:17:30 44.567N 110.820W 10.4 25 km (16 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.6 2013/09/15 05:13:15 44.555N 110.830W 10.7 25 km (15 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.4 2013/09/15 05:10:19 44.564N 110.822W 10.6 25 km (16 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT

We in Italy have received news from mass media that Bob Smith, a Yellowstone veteran expert has said he has never seen something like this...? Is it true?

reply to post by Zagari

This article from the Salt Lake Tribune has Mr. Smith stating he had never observed multiple swarms happening simultaneously.

reply to post by Olivine


thank yo for the info..this reminds me of the movie 2012... just wonder if they were a year late on that movie??? hmm lets think...not good...was it the west yellowstone that had the earthquakes in the2012 end of the world movie????

More rumbling today.

M 3.2 - 27km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
Time
2013-09-24 10:24:24 UTC
2013-09-24 04:24:24 -06:00 at epicenter
Location
44.734°N 110.777°W
Depth
5.30 km (3.29 mi)

And another one.
M 1.2 - 26km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
Time
2013-09-24 10:48:57 UTC
2013-09-24 04:48:57 -06:00 at epicenter
Location
44.745°N 110.786°W
Depth
4.90 km (3.04 mi)

And another one.
M 1.4 - 27km ENE of West Yellowstone, Montana
Time
2013-09-24 13:29:35 UTC
2013-09-24 07:29:35 -06:00 at epicenter
Location
44.745°N 110.771°W
Depth
7.70 km (4.78 mi)

Well if Old Yellowstone does blow it will be well long overdue. At least global warming will no longer be a worry! I remember a few years back there was a quasi dram documentary on BBC called Super Volcano. I have often wondered if it was more than a routine science programme! :0

Why would they post a negative number. I have never seen this before. I'm sure it's not too uncommon but don't recall. Am on phone doing errands so if anyone can explain. I know it means its tiny but why not just put 0.

-0.3 27 km ENE of west yellowstone. 4:18 UTC

Dianec
Why would they post a negative number

It's because earthquake magnitudes were designed as base-10 logarithms. It's Richter's fault. He decided that a one-millimeter displacement on his seismograph would be a "magnitude 1" quake, and that because of the enormous range of energies quakes can release, a logarithmic scale would be more convenient to represent those energies. So 10 mm would then represent a 2.0 (10 to the 2nd power), 100 mm a 3.0 (10 to the 3rd power), etc. If he'd decided that 1 mm would represent "magnitude 0" instead, the magnitude would match the exponent exactly (as applied to millimeters of graph displacement), but they're one off because he started the scale at 10^1 (10) instead of 10^0 (1). See.

So when Richter had displacements of less than 1 mm on his seismograph, he had to decrease the associated magnitude logarithmically. A quake of "magnitude 0.0" would thus be 0.1 mm of displacement, and if they get any smaller than that, the magnitude goes below zero. 0.01 mm is thus a "magnitude -1.0" quake... very very small, hardly even measurable on his equipment, but there is no lower limit in terms of quake energy; "no quake at all" is a "magnitude negative-infinity" quake. I imagine that stomping your foot on the ground would cause a magnitude -7.0 or so...

Nowadays, of course, the instruments are a lot better than Richter had, and they have adjustable sensitivities, so it's no longer "1 mm of displacement is a magnitude 1.0". It's the energy that his 1 mm represented that still equates to a 1.0. Hope that all makes sense... you almost have to be a math wizard to grok all this stuff.

It looks like the activity is picking back up on the west side of the park.
This image is from PB.B207.EHZ:


Here is the link to the Is this thing on? thumbnail page.

ETA: Still nothing on USGS, so they must be fairly small. I'm no good at guessing magnitudes for the Yellowstone area, because I don't spend enough time watching the seismos there. But the most recent one at 14:09 UTC looks larger than all of the others over the past few hours.
TA, you around to pinpoint the location and mags?


2nd Edit: That 14:09 UTC quake was a mag 2.8 located 12 miles north of Old Faithful Geyser (so says USGS)

luckeley the park is closed now....but the old faithfull cam is also shutted douwn :-(

reply to post by ressiv


This drives me crazy. What sort of maintenance does a self-run camera require? Ridiculous.

The ATSr in me wants to conspire. SO...I don't believe this, but really, if you think about it: The gov is aware of an increased risk or possible pending yellowstone eruption. What do they do?

I really believe that they would issue a warning once they were sure enough and start evacuations, etc. BUT...the conspirator in me says, "Nah...couldn't do that. It woud mean economic suicide. The world would sit and watch in anticipation as the giant(United States) fell. People would panic. The market would crash, the dollar devalue. The borders would be rushed and MExico and Canada might even try and close them down to prevent the millions trying to cross into their countries.

So what, then would they (TPTB) do? Well, very carefully and quietly plan for their own personal escape and success while trying to set up the best-case scenario for recovery afterwards, while thwarting a pre-economic suicide. They would hoard, they would prepare FEMA and other response agencies. As the time seemed to loom, they would shut down the park in an attempt to avoid detection until the last possible minute. Shut down the entrances, remove the rangers, shut down the cameras and pull as many scientists as possible off the seismic monitors. How in the world would they accomplish THAT without raising a big, red flag????

Hmmmmmm..............

(NO...I do NOT believe this, but come on, it IS ATS. Gotta have some fun with the tinfoil hat. )

Hehehe at this point it's likely that the cam is buried in snow.
Here in central WY, we got up to 36" in the higher elevations.
Everyone's digging out today.
YS usually gets much more snow than us, but I haven't heard any reports as of yet.

westcoast
reply to post by ressiv

 

This drives me crazy. What sort of maintenance does a self-run camera require? Ridiculous.

The ATSr in me wants to conspire.

SO...I don't believe this, but really, if you think about it: The gov is aware of an increased risk or possible pending yellowstone eruption. What do they do?

I really believe that they would issue a warning once they were sure enough and start evacuations, etc. BUT...the conspirator in me says, "Nah...couldn't do that. It woud mean economic suicide. The world would sit and watch in anticipation as the giant(United States) fell. People would panic. The market would crash, the dollar devalue. The borders would be rushed and MExico and Canada might even try and close them down to prevent the millions trying to cross into their countries.

So what, then would they (TPTB) do? Well, very carefully and quietly plan for their own personal escape and success while trying to set up the best-case scenario for recovery afterwards, while thwarting a pre-economic suicide. They would hoard, they would prepare FEMA and other response agencies. As the time seemed to loom, they would shut down the park in an attempt to avoid detection until the last possible minute. Shut down the entrances, remove the rangers, shut down the cameras and pull as many scientists as possible off the seismic monitors. How in the world would they accomplish THAT without raising a big, red flag????

Hmmmmmm..............

(NO...I do NOT believe this, but come on, it IS ATS. Gotta have some fun with the tinfoil hat.

)

Very logical line of reasoning though!!

I did a quick read on sunspots and earthquakes last weekend - ended up seeing there is a strong relationship with volcanoes with higher concentrations of silica erupting when there is less activity from the sun. When I looked at big eruptions (VEI 6 and above), a huge percentage of them have happened when sunspots were low (solar maunder or dalton or just low activity). Studies informed on these findings of course so it has stuck with me.

I don't know if yellowstone is a high silica volcano but one thing that made me feel better was that it breathes - it isn't building up pressure since that pressure just pops on through to create new geysers. Or better put - there is a lot of evidence it has built up pressure but it releases through the creation of new or existing geysers. I would think a volcano unable to do this would be a greater risk.

I imagine yellowstone is an extremely complex system for this reason alone - is the continual release enough? It would be nice to think we are forever safe due to gasses not being able to build up - which would lead to an explosive eruption. But - if it builds pressure too quickly that would be a different story. That appears to be what is happening with these swarms - pressure within. But are they seeing an increased release of gasses anywhere along with the swarms? If not, we are told we will begin to see uplift before it does anything dramatic. Of course - that is in theory.

Maybe the pressure is within a deeper pocket that is building pressure horizontally. Or it may be trying to release near old faithful right now - easiest exit. Or will pop out somewhere else. So many possibilities. Even after all of that it seems logical it would be a smaller eruptions (whatever small would mean for yellowstone).

I would be looking at volcanoes that do not have venting right now - ones that show evidence of building pressure. Ones that may be linked to or become super volcanoes.

www.nytimes.com...

Yellowstone probably did not look like a super volcano a million and a half years ago. Rather it probably had a huge magma chamber, built pressure, and blew a climate changing fit. It probably seemed benign back then (if we could have viewed it). Just a guess but I think that while important to watch, it is equally important to watch those that may be what yellowstone used to be.


Addition to reply to thought provoker above:
Thank you for your reply. I did not see it until today...I need to figure out a better way to see if I have responses/if people answer my questions. You explained it well - math isn't my fun subject so glad someone gets it and is able to convey the meaning.

reply to post by Dianec

wat you say is an interaction with the sun and earth's core ...right.... globalwarming from inside earth and moore pressure in the core by heating up...moore volcanic activity ect.

reply to post by lostgirl


The question is .. What can the government do exactly to prevent an eruption or protect people

Last time I heard (could be wrong) if Yellowstone blew the whole of the US is screwed .. So where would the evacuate to ?

reply to post by ThePeaceMaker

mexico and lower...