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Whats going on at yellowstone?


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reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 12:19 PM by spinkyboo


Originally posted by alysha.angel
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3.0 today .
for those who care .


I care - I think we have to keep in mind that the biggies that are happening -
ie" today 2 6.8 in fiji - has an effect on the whole of the planet to some degree.



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reply posted on 9-11-2009 @ 01:16 PM by Blibitz


Yep!! I care Too!! This is the first place I go when things act up a bit!! So much to learn here!! Keep up the good work people!!



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reply posted on 10-11-2009 @ 12:16 PM by ressiv


YMP is reacting the last few houers



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reply posted on 16-11-2009 @ 03:11 PM by Robin Marks


What are Yellowston's mathematical chances of it erupting in the next 100 years.
science.discovery.com...

There have been 80 erutption since the last "Super-erputinos" 640 000 years or so. Or, one every 8000 years. So the odds that Yellowstone will blow is just 1 in 100 that there will be an eruptionin the next hundred years. And that's not stating any size. I could meann the eruption could be moderate. Math, it oftens puts things into prespective. Do the math if you want to know how worried to be about Swine Flu.

That being said, I cannot dismiss the massive body in middle of North America. I cannot accept that the perfect semi-cirlce at Hudson Bay's southerst section is not a caldera. I cannot accept the official geological explaination that if formed fortituously. That is not an answer. Their best quess is erosion from prevailing winds causing the formation. And I'm making that up because I haven't found any official explaination.

Just stare at a Map of North America. Keep staring at it and come back to it when you can and stare at it some more. Keep looking at it and let it draw you in Notice the patterns, notice the direction. THen find the centres of the circle and draw them in. There's more than one. Mark the direction the contient is travelling, (NNW) and you'll find it. Ground Zero. Stare at it and find a way to conclude tha these geometric shapes just happened fortitously by happenstance. Someone has studied Bleecher Island, and it' been proven not to have happened by a metorites as so many have hypotheised. That's why they went there and did a geological survey. To expain the big circle in Hudson Bay. They found no answer. I have it. It's in the Math. In the Geometry.


Surely without math and science I would have murdered by now and long since been executed. Math and science can explain anything, even the neuro pathways in the mind. I once did not believe this, I thought no one, and nothing could understand the lunacy and maddess that is within my mind. But science allowed me to calculate a behaviour and measure the repetive quotient, the primal factor and the cultrul influence. I was of the artist and rejected all things including art. I hated to hear an authour bathher about his book, nor did I want to hear the story behing a painter. I rejected all hype and circumstance and sought one thing. Truth. And remarkably, math and science have led to every truth I know. I used math and reason and stop my mind from doing horrible things. I renounced all superstition, magic and religion. I presued only one goal- the truth. I do not believe in conspirasy theories, but I find gains of truth in everything, and deciet in every official document I read. I have come to a point where I see everything in the world on an evolutionary basis. I've observed and came to understand myself and kow know what motivates others. I understand history and am aware that it has limitations and is writ by the victor. I know why we alienate and why don't understnad things that are different. I understand it all, expect how to run my computer profiently.
There's only one thing I can't understand. If it'so obvious to me and it is a large void in the middle of a continet with no scientific expaination, why hasn't everyone noticed it. I feel like the guy from Close Encounters of the Third Kind piling his mash pototoes higher and higher. I guess it's in my own minds' eye. Stare at it. I'll bet sooner or later it starts staring back at you.

I wish this were a delusion, I'd sit back and enjoy the ride, take notes and wrtie a novel about the odysey. But it's not so fantastic. It's not outside the realm of rational and reason. There's nothing that defies physics or logic or anything else. It's rathar simplistic and I preformed an experiment. Don't fail me science, I've never given up on you , and I won't. Sometimes it takes a very long time for the truth to be accepted.

What I need is luck, And luck is a mathematical probability. THank god for math. Sooner or later things always add up and you number comes up.



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reply posted on 17-11-2009 @ 09:46 PM by herbivore


"If it's so obvious to me and it is a large void in the middle of a continent with no scientific explanation, why hasn't everyone noticed it. "

Would you care to elaborate a little more? I like your way of thinking, but I am not completely sure what you mean here.

Thanks.



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reply posted on 18-11-2009 @ 04:32 PM by Robin Marks


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I'm sorry, I really meant to just come out here and give the odds of an eruption. As I've said, I was just calculating risks to keep things in perspective. To stay sane. The rest just poured out. To the keen observer, it could be argued that I've hijacked this monstrous, sleeping thread, and turned it into my own personal blogg. What would it hurt? It helps me vent. With all this 2012 stuff, I've running across more stories about Yellowstone. My admitted obsession. It's kooky stuff flying around out there. Things like a chain of events sets of the volcano. Yellowstone doesn't need a planetary alignment to erupt. So I was thrilled to find a mathematical way of looking at it and wanted to share.

For anyone who's read some of the last hundred pages, they will have noticed my hypothesis. I won't go into too much detail. I'll just plug my You Tube channell and let you do the rest.

www.youtube.com...

I just like to come out here and express things that are running around in my head. To manifest them and then analyse the logic, or lack there of. Things trigger my preception of plate tetonics and I can almost see the next move. For example, my attention is fixated on the Queen Charlotte Island earthquake recently. The Region looks like a crude arrow and the quake happened at the tip. The tip seems to be pointing to the northern end of the Juan de Fuca Plate. This on it's on could mean absolutely nothing. But what has me concerned me is the Austrailian Plate movement over the last few months. There has been a push in a northerly direction all along it's northern boundry. Well, here's some simple physics, "for every reaction, there is an equal and opposite reaction." Of course that release of friction is directly on the regional fault between the two plates. But let's not forget the other side to the plate equation. The Pacific Plate has an opposite side, and the plate movement will have an effect on the North American Plate and the Juan de Fuca Plate. The movement of the Autrailian Plate may set into motion stress releases in the Juan de Fuca and along the Cascadia Subduction Zone. Normally I would just register this as a curiousity to monitor, and see if there is any increased activity to note. But one factor jumped to mind when I thought of the Cascadian Fault and it's proximity to the Olypmics. Once again my imagination is running wild. I'm sure you can set up your own nightmare scenario with the timing and locale. But I'm not going to. I'm just saying, I like to throw wild ideas out here and walk my way back from the ledge. After all this isn't a scientific journal. That's why this is my only outlet to express these ideas. It saves my friends and family from having to hear about them. And I hope some of you out here appreciate the diversion.

I hoped I've informed readers about Yellowstone's history. Many were surprised to read that the first reports about Yellowstone's existence were dismissed repeatedly. No one would believe the stories. It took a whole expedition to confirm the truth of the matter.

But mostly I come out here and share my ideas and my findings. I've gone on and gone about the role of water and and volcanic eruptions. I've drawn connections between Santorini and Krakatoa as being caused by the magma chamber being breached by sea-water and compared them to my own hypothesis. I even made another discovery in the history books. The eruption of Santorini is directly responsible for the events at Soddom and Gomorrah. My hypothesis is nightmarish. In the end I concluded that the eruption ejected it's entire chamber and this material, after travelling in the atmosphere, rained down as sulfuric acid on the Dead Sea area. My story fits with the description of the events better than those by proffessional geologists. It rained brimstone from the sky.

But you asked about the hole in the middle of Canada eh? That big hole is Hudson Bay. As a good Canada boy, with Asperger's and a fascination with maps, I gazed at my vast country all my life. The image was burned into my brain. Fast forward to about four years ago. While researching volcanoes I had a thought. Which transformed into a hypothesis. My imagined eruption was too big. It was massive by any scale. And besides there wasn't any perfectly round caldera anywhere in the world was there? When I turned to the map it was staring at me. A mega eruptin would create a perfect circle, a perfect caldera, and a ground zero to mark the origin of this detination. Not only was the perfect circle staring back at me, in my old familiar home, it was joined to two other, older circles. There were three giant holes in the middle of Canada. And not just that, there is two lines of fresh water lakes running across North America. They are related. And it is not an accident that Canada has 70% of the world's fresh water. We have lots of holes blown in our part of the North American Plate.

Sorry, just venting again.



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reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 09:10 AM by Old Farmer


Sorry to burst your bubble Robin but everyone knows that Hudsons Bay was not created by volcanic activity as there is no residue, also it was not created by an asteroid hit because there is no rim effect, its just a sinkhole.



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reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 03:17 PM by Robin Marks


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First, I must ask what you mean by sinkhole. Are you talking about the Hudson Bay Lowlands being depressed by the wieght of the glaciation? Or do mean sinkhole from subterrainean erosion?

We agree it was not formed by asteroid impact. But I can explain where the residue went. Before that I need to know specifically what kind of sinkhole you're talking about.



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