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Whats going on at yellowstone?


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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:57 AM by alysha.angel


Originally posted by xoxo stacie
Alright I will say it someone get on the horn and tell those 2 idiots from HS to give it up already and go wipe the camera for petes sake

or they can stop being cheap and install windshield wipers on the lens of the cam



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:58 AM by severdsoul


reply to post by Aphelion




cant confirm it, but the footage fox was playing on one of their teasers showed about a 8' hole with lava bubeling up. The main reason i'm still awake, to see if they told where they took that footage from. If it is YS its major... if its footage from some where else its no big deal.
But looks like they are going to chicken out and not play it. I'm going to have to crash before long and get a few hours sleep..



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:00 AM by beefytee


Originally posted by Aphelion
I've read in a few different locations (by posters, no citation fact or statements from professionals) that there apparently is "a chimney vent forming with magma in it".

Can anyone confirm those statements? Or are they just part of a snipe hunt of disinfo?


I'm pretty sure that's what went down in that "Documadrama" SUPERVOLCANO



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:00 AM by MadDogtheHunter


Originally posted by severdsoul
reply to post by Aphelion




cant confirm it, but the footage fox was playing on one of their teasers showed about a 8' hole with lava bubeling up. The main reason i'm still awake, to see if they told where they took that footage from. If it is YS its major... if its footage from some where else its no big deal.
But looks like they are going to chicken out and not play it. I'm going to have to crash before long and get a few hours sleep..



That was stock footage of a different volcano. Theres no magma erupting at Yellowstone, yet. So, you can rest well.

[edit on 1/6/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:00 AM by Ptolomeo


reply to post by xoxo stacie



I am with you, I saw it too.
Since yesterday when they were moving the webcam around the area and stopped there...

Interesting.
Regards,
Ptolomeo



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:01 AM by beefytee


Originally posted by severdsoul
reply to post by Aphelion




cant confirm it, but the footage fox was playing on one of their teasers showed about a 8' hole with lava bubeling up. The main reason i'm still awake, to see if they told where they took that footage from. If it is YS its major... if its footage from some where else its no big deal.
But looks like they are going to chicken out and not play it. I'm going to have to crash before long and get a few hours sleep..



I was under the impression that as soon as air hit the pressurized magma chamber, game over.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:04 AM by xoxo stacie


Originally posted by Shirakawa
Ok, so after a three hour sleep I updated the "top secret geyser" (awesome name, kudos to who suggested it!) activity chart. It is indeed becoming more active:

Click to enlarge

[edit on 2009/1/6 by Shirakawa]


If it gets any more active or any closer together its going to be constant. To make it worse its shaking alot in between.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:04 AM by MagicaRose


reply to post by xoxo stacie



I just now posted about the new vent.
Hope someone else notices it besdes me and you.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:05 AM by Rumbottlerenovator


Is it just me or is there no updated feed coming from UofU?
The last info I can retrieve is the end of the last cycle ending at 6 am.
The 6th data is not showing up.
The last data is well over 6 hours old, and usually by 8 am they have archived the previous day and current readings are available.
Today it's 10 am and still no new current info coming from any of the seismographs.
Since HS has told us that nothing is going on at YS, you would think then they would have enough time to keep the readings stream online and current?
No new data for 6 hours?
Is GEE still down?



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:06 AM by BOTOH


Originally posted by Shirakawa
Ok, so after a three hour sleep I updated the "top secret geyser" (awesome name, kudos to who suggested it!) activity chart. It is indeed becoming more active:

Click to enlarge

[edit on 2009/1/6 by Shirakawa]


Good work on the graph. Thanks for laying that out and keeping up with it. Someone suggested a similar name last night, but I think I coined the "Top Secret Geyser" name. Glad you like it.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:06 AM by xoxo stacie


Originally posted by Ptolomeo
reply to post by xoxo stacie



I am with you, I saw it too.
Since yesterday when they were moving the webcam around the area and stopped there...

Interesting.
Regards,
Ptolomeo



You know I found that very odd indeed they kept focusing back there on that MASS of eruptions then kept panning over to the stand of trees like they where expecting something to happen there too. But I tried to see if there is a geyser there too and cant seem to find one.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:07 AM by Shirakawa




The last one occurred at an even shorter time interval after its preceding one: only 38 minutes later. I wonder if the increase in activity has just started to escalate.

[edit on 2009/1/6 by Shirakawa]



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:08 AM by Aphelion


reply to post by severdsoul



More than likely that lava footage was from some volcano, somewhere else at some point. If YS was at that state, I doubt Fox News would be that close to film it. ;p

The precursors to an eruption are warning enough. It wouldn't just "explode" out of the blue with no warning, as is evident in any volcanic eruption. (Yes, I know it's a super-volcano and a bit extraordinary, but should still follow pattern with all it's "little sisters", if not varying to some degree.) Take Mt. St. Helens, for instance. Began showing signs on March 20th, and didn't blow until May. There will be ash puff first. A very noticeable and very quick bulge. The EQ's would increase in magnitude.

Zones were mapped out for the public, even though scientists back in 1980 couldn't predict when Helens would go, or how large the explosion would actually be.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:12 AM by Ptolomeo


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It´s like a small crater venting all the time. I have no idea if this is usual or if it was there before... But it has their attention... As the cam has focused many times there.

Regards,
Ptolomeo



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:14 AM by RFBurns


Originally posted by MadDogtheHunter
Originally posted by severdsoul
reply to post by Aphelion




cant confirm it, but the footage fox was playing on one of their teasers showed about a 8' hole with lava bubeling up. The main reason i'm still awake, to see if they told where they took that footage from. If it is YS its major... if its footage from some where else its no big deal.
But looks like they are going to chicken out and not play it. I'm going to have to crash before long and get a few hours sleep..



That was stock footage of a different volcano. Theres no magma erupting at Yellowstone, yet. So, you can rest well.

[edit on 1/6/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]


What was I saying earlier....F.x news loves to throw in glamor and glitter over a serious issue, and right there is your proof.



Cheers!!!!



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:16 AM by Mushussu


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Lol
Good morn all!
Just caught up from 224 to land on
Sageturkey jumping up and down in flames.
Too much.
Shall we have a wetted blanket ready for you?

:@ BOTOH , our baby has a name??
Ohh 'Top Secret Geyser' , nice ring to it!

As to missing Q in Montana it could be, mind you could be
If there is any Large mining company in the area of that event it could be that.
I have run across many that show up and then disappear and the explanation
has been mining, a few instances 1 or 2 road construction- clearing an edge of a mountain of all things to straighten or make a new road way.
NOT saying that that is what happened in Montana. But in other cases they show the blip and then it is gone. Upon inquiry explanation was one of the above.

As for the recent Noggin Bashing I received,
My back ground is Physics, Geology, Paleontology and Archeology.
Not much LIVE feed goes on in those topics!

I am not a novice to Volcanology.
My geek realm is web crawling. I am an excellent researcher.
I am Not a software profficianado.
I rely on RFBurns, TrueAmerican, Maddog and the magnificent Shirakwa for their expertise in Live Feed sites and Graphs.
Kudos to you.

I hate to see when we good people argue
We who have been on this site so very long now
shouldn't get our feathers ruffled so.
Even to those with good intentions to school us.

I will continue to watch, listen to all, pose my questions,and help field those who
come in with major anxiety, pop in with some levity.

There is nothing we can DO about Y.
What we can do is help each other.

Ok, putting MOM back in her box now.
Good morn all.







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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:17 AM by BOTOH


Originally posted by Ptolomeo
reply to post by xoxo stacie



It´s like a small crater venting all the time. I have no idea if this is usual or if it was there before... But it has their attention... As the cam has focused many times there.

Regards,
Ptolomeo




There are several vents, geysers, and springs there that erupt on various schedules (or no schedule at all). Unless you are extremely familiar with the area, it would be very hard to determine if a feature was new or behaving unusually -especially based on the poor resolution images coming from those cams.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:18 AM by RFBurns


Originally posted by Mushussu

Ok, putting MOM back in her box now.
Good morn all.







Do you have a fresh pot of coffee going?


Cheers!!!!

[edit on 6-1-2009 by RFBurns]



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:19 AM by littleflower


Originally posted by RFBurns
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by RFBurns



Sorry RF I don't buy that for a minute. So what you are saying is that the station output graphs are lying to us? That flat lines are in fact, not flat lines until they revise the data first, and all of a sudden these big events will show up LATER on the webicorder pages? Nuh uh.


No no no!! Im not saying the graphs or the data is lying to us. What I am saying is the data gets shunted to their computers first before it goes out onto the public servers for our use. It is important for the geologists and scientists there who are not just a curious public, to get this data as it happens, the second it happens. The system is designed so that when critical data is detected, it will direct that data to their systems first. Thats all, nothing changed, nothing hidden, its just the data needs to get to the crucial places first. The large indications you see later are the data they needed to detect at the moment it happend, when you saw nothing on the graphs.

I dont see anything wrong with that whatsoever. I for one am glad that their systems get priority. After all, who are we to trust in decyphering that data....those highly trained geologists who have been working these graphs for decades...or a few curious ATS members doing this from consumer grade computers, downloaded readers and graphs from public information access websites?

I would rather choose the advice and decyphering by the higly trained geologists who NEED that data before the curious public needs it.

No offense intended to the curious public. I fall into the catagory of the curious public too. But still I would rather see that data get prioritized to the trained professional geologists and their far more advanced systems than to us when a crucial measurement is detected.



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 6-1-2009 by RFBurns]


Why would it need to deflect at all? It is information - it can be sent to several places simulataneously. I am not understanding this.



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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 11:23 AM by Ptolomeo


reply to post by BOTOH



Thanks for the info. I agree with you that it is extremely difficult to determine if it is new or not... Who knows?
At the same time, the voice was explaining the temperature close to these vents... I assume that he was trying to say that it is normal to see the area around it without snow... That´s what we were talking about some posts back here on ATS...



Regards,
Ptolomeo



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