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reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:15 AM by alysha.angel
Originally posted by RFBurns
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by RFBurns
It just simply means its not on the public servers.


Umm, no it does not. Do you understand the concept of triangulating events between the webicorders and gee? What you are saying makes no sense. The webicorders and Gee may be delayed a few seconds, yes, but after they release the stream, or alternatively, they publish the update to the various webicorders graphs, it is easy to confirm- or in this case, deny- events. You are trying to make a case in the same breath that they are altering the data stream coming into gee and pulling out events, and feeding us relative flat lines instead? Lol, and I thought I was confused.


Ok let me clarify it for you.

The data you are so hung over that is not present on the public server system is simply just that..not on the public servers. That does not mean that their database is on that same system that the public uses. How confusing can that be to understand my friend? It really isnt.

There are two systems. Their database, and the public database. Their database gets the data first, priority. The public database gets it second, secondary. The two are completely isolated and seperate systems.

This means that if something is not on the public system, it is simply not there on the public system. That does not mean that it is also missing on their system and database.

Im not sure you are fully understanding that concept. They have to have the data, we dont. That public access system is for public benefit, public use, public curiosity, and public consumption. It is not intended to be used as a scientific database for the geologists and volcanologists who require their own database and systems to collect, store and process the data.

This one missing 3.2 Montana data is not anything to cry wolf over. I am simply trying to tell you how their system works and what happens when they consider data to be priority, and what happens when that data is prioritized.

Triangulating other sources is one way you can try to ascertain what might be in that particular area. Again, that is for your benefit, not the scientific analysis that is priority over public benefit for the "ooh ahh" factor.

Be glad they got the data and are analyzing it and trying to determine if there is a need to warn people. Heaven forbid that someone start crying that they didnt do anything about it. Well they are doing something about it, and doing it quite well IMO. Let me stress this point once again.....its a good thing that the system puts that data into priority mode and sends it where it needs to go so that the proper people who actually know far better than any of us out here how to decyper it and anlyize it and put 2 and 2 together from it.

If you like, contact the USGS office in Montana and file a complaint. I am sure they will stop what they are doing to address your concern over 1 piece of data that you dont have, but that they themselves do have.




Cheers!!!!

omg lol no good one thanks for the laugh


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:20 AM by j2000
Originally posted by severdsoul
reply to
post by rigel434



Unless you have to drive in it like i do, they are not taking to good care of their roads.

I was watching the fox teaser earlier and they were showing footage of open lava pits, not sure if it was from YS or some where else..
They sure are taking their time getting to the story , i gota get to bed, been a long night at work.

BTW Kudo's to everyone for the great work, i have learned a LOT reading this thread, go to YS about once a year, and being this close i stay on top of this thread, you guys get news and info before anyone.

But therory, i read the other day that the sun switched the magnetic polar fields, South is not north, could this be why we are having so much activity?
hold 2 magnets opposite and you will see what i mean, how long before earth flips, and what effect of the reverse poles going to have?



Found this on the Sun.

"This always happens around the time of solar maximum," says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight Center. "The magnetic poles exchange places at the peak of the sunspot cycle. In fact, it's a good indication that Solar Max is really here."

The Sun's magnetic poles will remain as they are now, with the north magnetic pole pointing through the Sun's southern hemisphere, until the year 2012 when they will reverse again. This transition happens, as far as we know, at the peak of every 11-year sunspot cycle -- like clockwork.

Earth’s magnetic field also flips, but with less regularity. Consecutive reversals are spaced 5 thousand years to 50 million years apart. The last reversal happened 740,000 years ago. Some researchers think our planet is overdue for another one, but nobody knows exactly when the next reversal might occur.



There is that damn number again................2012


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:23 AM by Ponyboy_86
reply to post by JustMike


Originally posted by JustMike
reply to post by jwstarry


You are quite right. Quakes in the region where you live are pretty rare animals indeed. I did a search of the NEIC database for the period 01/01/99 to 12/31/2008 for all quakes in a 200-mile radius (320 km) of Harrisburg and the list shows just 44 events,the largest being a mag 4.5 on Dec 9, 2003. If you take a look at the NEIC search results page here, you'll notice something, though:
1999: 1 quake
2000: 3 quakes
2001: 5 quakes
2002: 1 quake
2003: 7 quakes
2004: 3 quakes
2005: 3 quakes
2006: 5 quakes
2007: 4 quakes

So, some variation suggesting perhaps a gradual increase, but nothing too extraordinary. But last year:

2008: 12 quakes

That's kind of interesting, because of the 2008 quakes, the largest two were in December. The largest was a mag 3.4 on Dec 27 (the same day that the YVO people say the Yellowstone swarm began to intensify). It was also the closest to the target coordinates I input for Harrisburg at Latitude 40.160N Longitude 76.50W, at only 9 km (six miles) away. The second-largest (mag 2.4) was on Dec 31...

Could be just a statistical oddity but I'm wondering if this is all tied in to what's happening at Yellowstone? It "shouldn't" be as there is not supposed to be any direct link between Yellowstone's activity and what happens so far east of it, but what if it is? Food for thought.

It would be worth researching other US east regions to see if they have also had any uptick in quake activity in 2008, especially in the dying days of the year. Unfortunately I lack the time right now due to work duties or I'd do it myself. (I know there are maps showing all east half US quakes for the last six months but actual lists of data might be more telling when used in conjunction with them. And for the longer period as well, for comparison.)

Note: you can find the NEIC main search page on this link.

Regards,

Mike

[edit on 6/1/09 by JustMike]


Hi i registered to say this again:
I like how you think and i wonder if we could find data like that (from 99 or so) for all these areas thats been going off and having earthquakes lately and see if they all have sharp increase in 08. some of these areas are: kamchatka, indonesia papua afghanistan i think they all had started to have earthquakes around 27th dec 08.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by Ponyboy_86]


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:25 AM by sueloujo
reply to post by sageturkey



I am still here and I am in the UK. Been following this since page 1 even though I can't contribute much to the subject. Having said that, I do have a brother who lives in Oregon so some personal interest.

Carry on troopers!!


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:30 AM by coolvibe
reply to post by dustystrings


But so mutch against yesterday?
My opinion is the ground is warming up, magma rising?


reply posted on 6-1-2009 @ 10:33 AM by Ponyboy_86
Originally posted by Ponyboy_86
reply to
post by JustMike


Originally posted by JustMike
reply to post by jwstarry


You are quite right. Quakes in the region where you live are pretty rare animals indeed. I did a search of the NEIC database for the period 01/01/99 to 12/31/2008 for all quakes in a 200-mile radius (320 km) of Harrisburg and the list shows just 44 events,the largest being a mag 4.5 on Dec 9, 2003. If you take a look at the NEIC search results page here, you'll notice something, though:
1999: 1 quake
2000: 3 quakes
2001: 5 quakes
2002: 1 quake
2003: 7 quakes
2004: 3 quakes
2005: 3 quakes
2006: 5 quakes
2007: 4 quakes

So, some variation suggesting perhaps a gradual increase, but nothing too extraordinary. But last year:

2008: 12 quakes

That's kind of interesting, because of the 2008 quakes, the largest two were in December. The largest was a mag 3.4 on Dec 27 (the same day that the YVO people say the Yellowstone swarm began to intensify). It was also the closest to the target coordinates I input for Harrisburg at Latitude 40.160N Longitude 76.50W, at only 9 km (six miles) away. The second-largest (mag 2.4) was on Dec 31...

Could be just a statistical oddity but I'm wondering if this is all tied in to what's happening at Yellowstone? It "shouldn't" be as there is not supposed to be any direct link between Yellowstone's activity and what happens so far east of it, but what if it is? Food for thought.

It would be worth researching other US east regions to see if they have also had any uptick in quake activity in 2008, especially in the dying days of the year. Unfortunately I lack the time right now due to work duties or I'd do it myself. (I know there are maps showing all east half US quakes for the last six months but actual lists of data might be more telling when used in conjunction with them. And for the longer period as well, for comparison.)

Note: you can find the NEIC main search page on this link.

Regards,

Mike

[edit on 6/1/09 by JustMike]


Hi i registered to say this again:
I like how you think and i wonder if we could find data like that (from 99 or so) for all these areas thats been going off and having earthquakes lately and see if they all have sharp increase in 08. some of these areas are: kamchatka, indonesia papua afghanistan i think they all had started to have earthquakes around 27th dec 08.

[edit on 6-1-2009 by Ponyboy_86]

there are many more areas by the way hisz.rsoe.hu...
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