Whats going on at yellowstone?, page 122

Water flow from the Yellowstone Lake is peaking again just updated at 12:30 and it's back up over 500 CFS

Yellowstone Lake Water Flow

reply to post by meagerhair

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whoa - it was 476 this morning - that has jumped! I remember thinking - well it' snot in the 500s well there is goes now -

reply to post by trusername

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Yes - I'm not getting any readings on my widget - It isn't Gee though - it's one for my mac - directly links though to USGS - etc...

I am finding something else very disturbing though. I watch these quakes everyday and have for sometime - I am in California.

There is a definite line of unusual quakes along the east edge of CA. I see them all of the time in the west along the coast - this is natural - but the ones on the other side outlining the east side of California into Nevada. Kind of creeping me out.

reply to post by beefytee

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At 12:40, when the 2.9 just happened, the streaming cam at Old Faithful was bobbing up and down quite nicely! Pretty impressive for this LaSalle boy.
Old Faithful cam

Originally posted by Telafree

Originally posted by who-me?
also could you post the link for the addon for firefox.

Cheers.

you betcha..here is the link

Firefox earthquake addon

AWESOME ADD-ON! I can finally stop checking this thread so often! ; )

addons.mozilla.org...

Originally posted by WSPfan
The last 40 minute have been harmonic. We have had many a debate on the thread so far about this, but this has to be considered harmonic now. Anyone?

Hi there,

I agree with you. Actually my humble opinion is that we have seen many periods of harmonic activity in the past several days. However, at least once when we started discussing it too deeply a "new member" appeared on the thread to tell us that no, they are not harmonics and we were mistaken. (Apparently joined ATS just to tell us that. Ain't that nice?) So, in the interest of providing solid data, I will post the same image I posted about 50 pages back, which is the Mt St Helen's Seismicity chart from May 18, 1980, with the different kinds of traces clearly marked by seismologists. Hopefully this will stop some of these "new members" from trying to tell us what is staring us in the face is not what we think it is.

Here is the image. Please right-click on it and click "View Image" to see the whole pic, as it will be truncated on the screen here:

(Original image from USGS can be accessed on this link. Image reproduced for educational purposes.)

I posted the image direct from my host server because the USGS link might not always be available.

It seems to me that what we are seeing on several helicorders now in Yellowstone is virtually identical to the "harmonics" shown on the MtSt Helen's Seismicity chart.

[edit on 2/1/09 by JustMike]

Originally posted by Foxe
reply to post by TrueAmerican

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Yes, in ancient times, if I recall, there was such a thing. Its called a mantle uplift if I recall. It basically turns a continent into one giant Kilauea lava flow. Its non explosive I do not think, but its not common... if I recall, India and Russia have the remains of two...

It's long been a theory of mine that Yellowstone could just be the head of one coming up. Considering there's two other super volcanoes nearby (nearby in geological terms) on the US continent (Long Valley, CA, and another one in the south west, forgot it's name) + dozens and dozens of volcanoes... I've often wondered if they were not the head of a major uplift, slowly making its way up for millions and millions of years. Creating hot spots as parts of it breaks loose.


As for Yellowstone, she isn't the biggest ever. The largest super volcano ever (forgot it's name) to blow that we know of, put out 5000 gigatons (5 mil megatons) of energy

[edit on 1-1-2009 by Foxe]

Just out of interest, you may be thinking of the Siberian Traps - this baby was a super-massive lava flow eruption covering an area of up to 7 million squsre kilometers.

Now, I'm a bit rusty on the details, so anyone feel free to correct me, but it is believed that this inconcieveably large eruption (I believe the phrase you were looking for is "mantle plume") was one of the great levellers in the history of our earth. Studies point to this taking place at the boundary between the Permian and the Triassic eras, and it is thought that so much sulfur dioxide was released that the earth was plunged into a worldwide ice age for hundreds of thousands of years. Ironically, at the same time, the amount of Carbon Dioxide realeased increased the global temperature by up to 15 degrees Celcius, and the effects of this greenhouse warming could have lasted for millions of years afterwards. Current theory suggest the ice age followed millennia of searing, desert conditions. It is believed that almost 99% of life was wiped out, and that we owe our current existence to cyanobacteria which were able to survice in stagnant, otherwise lifeless water - what little there was. They produce CO2 as a by-product and it is thought that over the millenia they produced enough to help the global temperature gradually rise back to levels where the ice sheet covering the earth was able to melt.

We owe our existence to bacteria.

Oh, and to put things in perspective, the lava flow erupted for anywhere between 500,000 and 1 million years, give or take. And it is believed that we have actually released more CO2 into the atmosphere in our hundred years' dalliance with petrochemicals than was released in the entire mantle plume period.

Now THAT is some perspective.

reply to post by spinkyboo

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can you send me a link on those calif quakes? I'm in San Francisco

and maybe this is what we were seeing on RSOE before it was blacked out

reply to post by JustMike

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EXACTLY! I would listen to an arguement that the previous "noise" we saw was not harmonic, but the last hour it is hard to deny that is harmonic. Also, this new set of "harmonics" started with a quake of notable size and has continued non-stop since then. It is as if the 3.6 opened up something allowing a flow to begin.

Thoughts?

Originally posted by trusername
reply to post by spinkyboo

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can you send me a link on those calif quakes? I'm in San Francisco

and maybe this is what we were seeing on RSOE before it was blacked out

It's on this regular map that I noticed it.
The problem with RSOE is that they only put up a few as actual visuals - so it is hard to determine how many and where unless you actually read the info at the bottom - but this visual at this link - although we of course get quakes to the mid and the east - does not look normal to me -

earthquake.usgs.gov...

reply to post by toast317

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here's an example of normal with occasional earthquake (normal being relative this last week)

www.quake.utah.edu...

here's harmonics

www.quake.utah.edu...

look back a few posts at mt. st. helens

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