A Likely Possible Answer to the Recent Unusual Weather

I done a bit of research and the most likely cause of the extreme weather in the USA and elsewhere, is in my opinion due to the influence of the ENSO, or the El Nino Southern Oscillation (or El Nino as commonly known).

So what is El Nino?



What is Southern Oscillation Index?



Despite being mostly confined (but not exclusively) to the Pacific ocean, El Nino and La Nina, can influence weather patterns around the globe. Most ENSO activity takes place in Australia and South America, however, the North American continent also experiences fluctuations.

Typically, in an El Nino period, the northern parts of the USA experience warmer winters, while the southern parts recieve wet and cooler conditions (particulary from the mid to east regions). See image below for more detail



In a La Nina period, the northern parts of the USA recieve cold conditions, and the north west coast experiences more precipitation (as we have recently seen in Washington state). The north eastern and central states also experience a wetter period. The southern states recieve warmer than normal temperatures, which can also be accompanied by lower than average rainfall. See image below for more detail



On the other side of the Pacific, in tropical Australia (where I live), we recieve wetter weather. So far this year, we have had above average and earlier than normal rainfall, which has been very apparent in the state of Queensland.

El Nino also affects the location and the direction of the jetstream, which can greatly affect temperature and rainfall patterns.

During El Nino events, the jetstream brings in moist air from the pacific to the southern states resulting in normal rainfall and cooler upper air for the south east region.

During La Nina events, the jetstream is enhanced in the polar areas, and brings heavier rainfall to the northeast and cooler than normal temperatures. There is also a variable jetstream further south, pushed north by the trade winds, which results in heavier rainfall and cooler weather in the pacific northwest. The southern states then become drier and warmer as the cooler, wetter conditions are restricted to the north.



From an external source:



These are the latest model outlooks for ENSO (most done in November or late October 2008)from the various meteorological departments for December 2008 to March 2009

Australia Met Bureau- Neutral
ECMFW- Neutral
UK Met Office- Cool (La Nina)
NCEP- Cool (La Nina)
GMAO/NASA- Neutral
JMA Japan- Neutral

As you can see there are indications towards a La Nina type period

This is the summary from my work of our latest ENSO outlook



Again, as you can see, the ENSO is leaning towards cooler temperatures, relating to a La Nina period.

Considering that El Nino events have occured recently (see below extract0, a La Nina pattern will seem like a very different weather pattern from the norm. But in fact, it is a normal weather pattern that we havent seen for a lengthy period for a long time





So considering the above quote, the last major La Nina, was almost an entire decade ago. (Darwin Met Office, where I work, recorded our largest ever annual rainfall total 1999). So of course the current increase in rainfall and temperature fluctuations across the USA will seem strange.

So that concludes, it. In my own opinion, there is nothing amiss with the earths weather pattern, its normal, just a different period of weather patterns

www.bom.gov.au...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.elnino.noaa.gov...







[edit on 27/12/2008 by OzWeatherman]

Great post Oz.

I bow to your expertise in this area.

S & F my friend

Mungo

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Thanks for that

It didnt really occur to me until I read the unusual weather thread where people were describing the unseasonal weather conditions they were experiencing. So I put 2 and 2 together and its seems the likely cause.

Of course micro climates will have a big effect on certain places, but overall I think these effects are strongly influenced by the La Nina weather pattern

Tell me all about the colder and wetter weather in Washington. We're tired of it but at least we won't have a drought this year.

Well you wont have a drought for at least six months anyway

The ENSO outlook goes through to August I think and it doesnt seem to have any signs that it will make a dramatic switch back to El Nino patterns

Well, Oz at one point we had 3 feet of snow and for the first time I had to put chains on my car. Tonight we have 45 degrees and everything is melting. If it freezes tonight we are in real trouble. The snow pack in the mountains is still not melting so any flooding will be localized and relatively minor.

Nice, this does put the local fluctuations between bone chilling cold weather and the unseasonably warm weather in perspective. Overall I'd say it's an accurate depiction of the weather patterns for me locally. Looks like you put quite a bit of time in it too, good post.

Yep

It may seem weird at first, but its actually surprising how quickly the weather can change in certain patterns. Ive been in Melbourne when the temperature was 38 degrees C and a day later Melbournes lowest ever maximum for summer was recorded (which was 13 degrees celsius, cool for Australia)

And yes I did put a bit of work into it

[edit on 27/12/2008 by OzWeatherman]

That particular el nino was on the news a while ago saying it would disrupt weather patterns..not a surprise to me,but i haven't been noticing much in the way of strange weather in uk.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by Solomons]

Thats because the UK is only really affected by the ENSO that occurs in the Atlantic ocean. It occurs on a much smaller scale than the pacific ENSO. Anyway we are in a La Nina period rather than an El Nino one at the present

A friend of mine was recently telling me that it was due to Global Warming, and I tried to argue just the point you made (although, not quite in as much detail). Unfortunately, it didn't go over well. She was convinced that it was the Earth's way of retching at the activity we've been causing. I think the conversation started while we drove through the country taking pictures after a recent heavy ice storm that left everything utterly frozen in a thick caste of ice. I mentioned that it looked like God's own wrath, destroying with a perfect purity. Of course, I only meant this poetically - but she seemed to think it was true in a literal sense.

thanks for correcting me

two lines...honest.

The problem with global warming is that there is little substantiated evidence that it is fact. And we dont have enough climate records to determine wether or not this is a normal trend for the earth or not. Ask your friend if she knows the mechanisms that drive the weather, like ENSO and then see what she thinks

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Well, I have little doubt that global climate change is a real phenomena. The globe heats and cools in (regular?) cycles. Whether or not the current warming trend is a natural cycle or is substantially due to man's activity is the question we have yet to fully answer. Again, I don't doubt that mankind is having some sort of an impact. It seems rather naive to me to think that cause and effect relationships halt when talking about mankind's changes to atmospheric composition - however minor they may or may not be. After all, proliferation of single-celled organisms had enough of an impact on Earth's atmosphere at one time to change it dramatically and cause an ecological disaster - substantially changing the land, air, and the life which would soon occupy them dramatically.

That took several million years though, iirc, and insofar as our current trend in climate change - again, I don't doubt that it's happening. I just don't know to what degree that we're pushing it along, nor do I think the data is there to justify the doomsday scenarios.

As far as my friend is concerned, she's not very science minded. I doubt she's even understand the concept, and would continue to rely on news-bites and headlines to inform her. Again, to a degree, she seems to think the Earth is "alive" in a sense... a sort of Gaia... and that we're pissing it off. This is a concept that I wholly reject and until we'd be able to get past that - there's no point in arguing data.

[edit on 28-12-2008 by Lasheic]

I totally agree. Its all part of the natural balance of the earth. For example, high pressure moves into areas of low pressure, low pressure moves into areas of high pressure. Thats the areason why you cant have two hurricanes or cyclones sitting right next to each other. And the same is true for temperature. What heats, cools and vice versa



Thats true again. Regardless of wether global warming is a myth, reducing harmful gases in the atmopshere will be nothing but beneficial



Agree agree agree

Thats what Ive thought for a while. ATS'ers do tend to blow things out of propoertion here too, despite having no background in the science.



Well thats ok, lol

I cant say thats the way I think. Im very science minded and work in the area of weather, so knowing how the mechanisms work to influence the patterns is crucial, as is analysing climatic data