I don't know if i have posted in the right section,but i really would like to know which was written first Sumerian tales or the bible ,i am really struggling with my christian believes due to this subject!!

If you want to keep your christian beliefs mate, then consider dropping the subject NOW!
Do you remember the matrix? Remember the guy that wanted to get back into the matrix?
You can't! Once you're out, you're out! There's no going back
The rollercoasterride will be interesting, but not comforting!
Blue or red pill => Your choice!


I swallowed the pill and I have occasionally regreted it. It tends to make you lonely, but I would make the same choice again!

I'll come back later/tomorrow and see if you're still interested!
Good luck and blessings,

Samuel

EDIT to add: I'm definately no guru, but I think I'm a tad further down the path that you're on and may be able to share what I have found out! ^^

[edit on 27-12-2008 by Aldolas]

Ah yes, the blue or the red? There is definitely no going back!! I was never a Christian or any religion at all. But the thing that always bugged me was where in the hell did all those strange tales come from in the bible? I knew enough that god wasn't a man in a robe on a throne up in the air somewhere, but I knew there was a 'god'. But now I call it Infinite Creator or Great Spirit. I believe that the 'other' force here with us, or our 'visitor' as some call it, altered much of the bible, hushed the 'witches', killed off the native Indians, and made a mockery of anything and everything that is the truth (spiritual). Including Earth's REAL history. We are at odds with these friends, but neither one of us is in the RIGHT - we are just different. And that is the hardest to accept, evil and good, one in the same. So, welcome to the club of the confused rats trying to find their way out of the maze!

[edit on 27-12-2008 by blujay]

thanks for the advice i know i should follow it BUT,i dont want to leave religion but i do want to know what is the truth.

The Sumerian tales are older (or at least were written down first.) These tales, on clay tablets, are about 1,500 years older than the Bible. The earliest of the Biblical books was written down about 1500 BC.

The story of what was written when for the Bible and how they decided what books were to go into the Bible is an interesting tale, and one you should read sometime.

The best book that I have ever read on this subject is "old world secrets the omega project codes" but it is as what has been said. If you choose to read it, your life will never be the same. You will end up like me trying to show everyone that there is something very wrong with what we are being told. And as to what has also been said about being lonely, that is true to because most of the world has been fed lies and they will fight you to the death to prove that they know what is going on because that is what their dads dad told them. They will claim things that you will learn for a fact to be true as untrue, and laugh in your face with the rest of the masses simply because their dads dad told them as well or even better yet, because they saw it on TV.

[edit on 30-12-2008 by seek4 truth]

Originally posted by illece
I don't know if i have posted in the right section,but i really would like to know which was written first Sumerian tales or the bible ,i am really struggling with my christian believes due to this subject!!

Don't pay no attention to the morons that can't define words. Now I would ask you what you meant by your words? Written First? Did ou mean actually written down or Published work?

Let me explain, Stephen King is a well known Author of Horror stories, many of his readers will know this but it proves the point. Stephen King wrote many of his best known Horror Stories in College before he had really been published as a great writer. Now if Stephen King pulls a story out of his filing Cabinet that he wrote in 1969 but he publishes it in 2009, what is it date written? what is its date Published?

The Bible was WRITTEN long before any sumerian tales were published or written. However it was not until Moses that GOD gave us the EDITOR of the book of Genesis. Moses took the probable clay tablets that Adam and Noah and all those in between kept and wrote and Moses Published them in one place for all to see.

God haters will try to deny this is possible but Archeological digs have shown his to be most accurate probably...

But then it takes Faith to believe in GOD and a Creation and rules to life, some people like it with no rues. Look at Hitler and how he ran with Evolutionary thinking, as an example... No rules means man can make his own rules.... Hitler did!

Originally posted by illece
I don't know if i have posted in the right section,but i really would like to know which was written first Sumerian tales or the bible ,i am really struggling with my christian believes due to this subject!!

The sumerian tales were written first. But do not think that the bible borrows from sumerian tales, because they do not. The only way they can make the sumerian stories "match" the bible is if they mix and match various things from sumeria, and fit them together, not if they take them as they are.

To those that are saying that the bible came first, but just wasn't published yet, I would have to say that you are living your life with blinders on. The Sumerian texts came LONG before any of the biblical stories and if you can find a single "archaeological dig" that supports any theory otherwise, I would be happy to see it.

The story of Gilgamesh (a sumerian ruler) is the oldest recorded story in the world, and the tablets we have date back close to 3000 B.C. in twelve separate pieces. The oldest version of the Old Testament dates back to around 1000 to 500 B.C. Hardly a contest between the two, and the Gilgamesh Epic gives an account of a version of Noah and his survival of a "Great Flood" generations before. Different names, of course, but the story is the same.

Realistically, science and archaeology are going to support Sumeria. Your faith is going to support whatever it will like. To the original poster, I hope this answers your question.

The Bible was WRITTEN long before any sumerian tales were published or written.

Hans: How do you know this? Is this a faith based pronouncement or is your comment evidenced?

Moses took the probable clay tablets that Adam and Noah and all those in between kept and wrote and Moses Published them in one place for all to see.

Hans: The earliest versions of the bible books are I believe written on papyrus and parchment (some on metal plates) not on clay tablets – if so they’d still be around. By the way which language would Adam have written in?

..... will try to deny this is possible but Archeological digs have shown his to be most accurate probably...

Hans: Which digs and what did they show that supported this?